Nonito Donaire vs. Jeffrey Mathebula & Kelly Pavlik vs. Will Rosinsky RBR

He obviously scored the knockdown round 10-9

 

Hmm, I don't know about that analogy. . .

I think the main point IB is making on why the cards were justifiably so wide (to keep it short and simple), is that for every grazing, "feeble" punch Mathebula landed, Donaire landed a cracking, thudding power shot. . . Even two grazing shots from Mathebula didn't equal one of Donaire's landed power shots, IMO. . .

That's the way I saw it, and the reason I gave most of rounds 5-10 to Donaire. . .

 

Donaires effective punches are being overrated.

Mathebula blocked most of them. And although Mathebula was shoe shining he got some good punches in there. Donaires face tells the story.

117-110 or 116-111 in a fight that was closer then those scores indicate.

 

Not really, I like guys who come to fight, which is why I'm such a big fan of Rios. I'm simply fair, if the guy I'm a fan of loses, then he should lose. Not be awarded a gift decision.

 

As you have said earlier, stop comparing Nito with Pac.

 

I can agree enough with this analysis. . I had it 117-110, but in a fight that was more competitive because there was quite a few somewhat close rounds in the mid/mid-late rounds: rounds 5-10. Thought Donaire most definitely won 11, 12, and round with the KD. . Thoguht Mathebula pretty clearly won one of those early rounds, can't remember which one. . .

 

I had the 1st even. Sat myself nicely on that fence.

1- 10-10 (though could have gone for Donaire) 10-10
2- 10-9 Donaire 20-19 Donaire
3- 10-9 Mathebula 29-29
4- 10-8 Donaire 39-37 Donaire
5- 10-9 Mathebula 48-47 Donaire
6- 10-9 Mathebula 57-57
7- 10-9 Donaire 67-66 Donaire
8- 10-9 Mathebula 76-76
9- 10-9 Mathebula 86-85 Mathebula
10- 10-9 Mathebula 96-94 Mathebula
11- 10-9 Donaire 95-94 Mathebula
12- 10-9 Donaire 114-114

 

Nope, just explained it with my scorecard as above post.

 

Donaire didn't come close to landing shot for shot, at times Mathebula was landing 4,5 and even 6 too 1 for Donaire. Myself and you and IB are just gonna have to agree to disagree here. Because it seems you guys give fighters with poor punching power no chance. Even if they out-land the power puncher 2-3 too 1 they still don't win the round? Is that what you guys are seriously saying?

 

So what happened to Matty? Did he get some **** crunched, or broken? What else did he have to say in post-fight interview? Anything interesting? Did he feel the cards were correct?

I didn't watch post-fight interviews, as I always have the urge to simulate a boxing match on fight night champion after watching boxing. . . Lol, so I got right on it.

 

ACtually sorry, I don't want to speak for IB. . . I can't say he was seeing the exact thing I was seeing. .


But I just didn't see that many punches landing for Mathebula. . . And I saw Donaire pushing Mathebula back with his shots, and just bossing him with his power shots. . . The rounds I felt were close: 5-10, I thought Mathebula MIGHT have landed 5-7 more punches in those rounds, but Donaire's were just so much harder, and more effective. . Mathebula's shots had no visible effect on him. . Similar to the Roskinski fight, in a way. . If Will had landed, say 25 punches, and Pavlik landed 17 punches, Pavlik would have still took the round because of the power differential, and effect they were having on the boxer.

 

Ugly sloppy fight. Donaire won, looked ****, lets just forget it and hope he fights Rigi

 

That was mainly based on tonight's fight. I'll have to watch the replay but I just thought Mathebula was throwing weak axe arm punches.

 

But RORSHACH. . . It should be noted that I DO think this fight WAS MORE COMPETITIVE, and "closer" than the scorecards read. . It's just the way he fight played out, the wide scorecards were justifiable (being scored on round by round basis).

 

I was the one making the prediction going into the fight Mathebula would lose a 115-113 type decision, in a clsoe fight with lots of two-way exchanges. . Where Mathebula would get the better on the outside, and on the inside, but Donaire would be to devastating from mid-range. . . Wasn't as exciting as I predicted, as it was very ugly for large periods of each round. . . but I feel I was kind of correct . . .

And sure enough, Mathebula lost some of the rounds he could have won, becuase he decided to stand strong (stationary) in the pocket, and let Donaire TEE OFF FROM MID-RANGE.