Nonito Donaire Vs Omar Andrés Narváez Countdown.

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    What Korean and Thais have peeps said he'd beat? Samart would take the **** out of him.
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    And anyways I was doing a Keegan. I'm a big Donaire fan. Idont think he's the second coming of Christ, but he's ace and I'm really looking forward to Saturday/Sunday. In fact I'd say, as of late Nonito has become one of my favourite fighters.
     
  3. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Unless you're one of those who think Fillipino's should be humble, and like many of his countrymen don't like Donaire because he supposedly does not conform to these expectations?


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    EDIT: And after I do all that you basically inform me that it was a waste of time.:twisted:
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Khaokor would best him, I stand by it. Borkhorsor as well.

    Bar a wonder punch, Nonito would decimate Khaosai.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    As far as I'm concerned, Nonito is American? :huh I couldn't give a **** for his attitude, but he's always seemed a nice guy from what I've seen.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    They really wouldn't Flea :lol:

    It might ruin your delusions but seriously, they wouldn't. Although if Donaire looks **** I'll look a right spanner
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Go on then, how would Donaire deal with Borkhorsor? As you're so certain.

    Delusions? Seriously mate, get ****ed with that ****, that's cheeky as ****. I dunno' how many times I have to stress, but I'm too much of a boxing fan to allow bias to get in the way :good

    Regardless of Nonito looking ****, Narvaez is nothing like either of those guys so it mean would mean nothing in regards to a matchup with Donaire whatsoever. So you're safe there ;-)
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm certain because Donaire is just way too much of a presence for him. Look, guys like Herrera and Martinez were fine fighters, but they're not Donaire. In my mind its a different proposition. Borkhorsor is completely outsized, outmatched athletically, overpowered. Whatever stylistic issues he may present, and I agree he does present some that Donaire hasn't had to deal with, its still too much to overcome.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    I see what you're saying, but I would say Herrera is as good a Bantam as Donaire, he's one of the ATGs at the weight.

    In terms of skillset, he was ace as well. Donaire is different but I don't think it makes him automatically better than Herrera, in fact I think the Mexican would deal with Nonitos opponents in much the same way :good

    If Donaire was in the mix with Herrera, Castillo and Olivares, I'm not certain he'd look anywhere near as good as he currently does.

    I am not too comfortable with rating fighters when they're still active to be honest. Donaire could fall apart in the next year (highly unlikely) and we'll be saying he was a chinny mess. Again, highly unlikely.

    Borkhorsor was an absolute beast, a tremendous puncher, who could counter well and outmuscle most. I don't think there's any proof that Donaire holds all the advantages against him that you say he does. Borkhorsor made hardened opponents submit from his punches, Betulio Gonzalez for instance, a far better fighter than anyone Nonito has destroyed. His punches were so powerful that kids screamed at Herrera the day after their fight. To assume that Donaire is automatically better than him at everything you say is just plain wrong. Sorry if that spoils your delusions.

    Although it seems that Donaire is apparently unbeatable against anyone in history in most peoples eyes :roll:
     
  10. RockyMartinez

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    I dont see what the fuss is with Navarez. I watched the Seda fight and thought he was lucky to win that. Seda dominanted him for long spells and found it pretty easy to land round and underneath the high guard. The size difference will be huge on the night, Donaire takes him out when he wants
     
  11. TFFP

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    I'm not assuming he's better than him at everything, I'm assuming he holds all physical advantages which he absolutely does. Thats just common sense. He's bigger, while also being faster and he probably punches harder considering the level of competition he can spark out. None of that is unreasonable, one could work this out in 10 seconds of watching either man. This is the primary reason why we already have to consider Donaire one of the H2H best ever at 115 and probably 118 regardless of whether 'everyone' (and really its just me) consider him unbeatable.

    As much as Borkhorsor could present a new challenge to Donaire I'm pretty sure Donaire would be completely different to anything he has faced too so it works both ways. And no I don't neccessarily think Herrera and Martinez deal with Darchinyan and Montiel like that. Not at all.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Herrera does IMO, it is clear on film he is a far better fighter than either of them, he has a great jab, can whack, and is equal a ring general to any Bantamweight. Borkhorsor battered him. Considering the punchers Herrera had been in with, the fact he didn't fall to pieces and get sparked is less an indication that Borkhorsor didn't have tremendous power but more an indication of the great Bantamweights toughness.

    I will say Donaires slaying of Montiel was very impressive. Montiel had finally got back in his groove after a crappy couple of years and had beaten Hasegawa well, but I still don't think Montiel was a great Bantamweight when Nonito blitzed him, nor do I consider Montiel a great fighter at all.

    When did Betulio Gonzalez get stopped? 'Gonzalez, who suffered extensive damage to the body and was bleeding from a cut on his cheek, complained to his corner that he was unable to stand on his feet as a result of the battering he took in the 7th, 8th and 9th rounds'. Donaire is a beastly and beautiful puncher, don't get me wrong, but it's like comparing Joe Louis to George Foreman. Neither is a harder puncher, they are different types of power.

    Borkhorsor has faced the better fighters thus far. And, with the exception of Martinez, beat all of them soundly (he obviously did beat Herrera), and smashed two of them up savagely.

    He'd do the same to Nonito IMO.

    Alan Rudkin told me that Alfonso Zamora was in awe of Borkhorsor when he met him.
     
  13. ciaran

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    cant see past a donaire stoppage !!
     
  14. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    This is an embarrassing post.
     
  15. LP_1985

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