Nonito Donaire Vs Omar Andrés Narváez Countdown.

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  1. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Get ready for a torrent of (awful) insults.
     
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  2. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I've had them before, remember the "Broner beat Ponce clearly" fiasco?

    The only thing non-spastic about that post was the acknowledgement of the mass size difference. The rest of it warrants a People's Elbow.
     
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  3. SportsLeader

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    You try telling him that :yep.
     
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  4. RockyMartinez

    RockyMartinez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whats embarrassing about it? Cos you say so? I thought Seda had a lot of success. I think Donaire is different class, at 5'3 and 36 years of age I think he has it all to do against a man who i beleive will move up another two weights at least. He destroyed the previously "unstoppable" Siderenko and ripped through Montiel.
    If you dont like those points I'm sorry but its my opinion and we'll see just embarrasing it is after saturday night
     
    RockyMartinez, Oct 20, 2011
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  5. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Its amazing that Navarez waited until he was in his late 30's to take on the biggest challenge of his career. After nearly 10 years of facing some less than stellar opposition, hes finally decided to take a big risk. Im happy that hes doing it, seems odd though.
     
    sportofkings, Oct 20, 2011
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  6. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Saying he was ''lucky'' to beat Seda is not making a point. It's not having an opinion. It's being wrong.

    Saying Seda ''dominated'' for ''long spells'' is not making a point. It's not having an opinion. It's being wrong.

    There's no way in which you can determine if it is no longer embarrassing after Saturday, because Cesar Seda won't have a part to play. The things you said regarding Seda were embarrassing, you can't prove that they aren't because Donaire will dominate.

    For instance:

    Juan Manuel Marquez was lucky that he got a split decision defeat in the Pacquiao rematch, he lost much more clearly.

    If you think that's embarrassing, just wait until they fight in November.

    It's not valid reasoning.

    I'm not making another post on this matter.

    I am not clogging the thread up with posts where I attempt to explain what is plainly obvious to you/
     
    jpab19, Oct 20, 2011
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  7. RockyMartinez

    RockyMartinez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL so it s embrassing just because you think he won the fight easy and i thought Seda had success. WOW you really are a know it all. 115-112 with a point off in his native Argentina would say otherwise. But you are correct oh great one
     
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  8. RockyMartinez

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    •Omar Narvaez UD-12 Cesar Seda: A decent fight, a bit sloppy and without much by way of good, clean punching along the way, but competitive and generally not slow-paced. Bad Left Hook scored it 115-113 for Seda, but I could have easily seen the exact score the other way, so I'm far from calling this a robbery. I will say that Seda had a devil of a time battling not only Narvaez, but referee Raul Caiz Jr., who at one point warned Seda for having his arm grabbed and held by Narvaez, among other harassment moments. At least it's a legitimately credible win for Narvaez (34-0-2, 19 KO), and while it's the first loss for Seda (20-1, 15 KO), and he showed flaws by tiring and not using his jab enough, I think the fight legitimized him a bit more, too.

    (Bad left hook reporter seems to agree) Another embrassing young chap. Oh lord :hey
     
    RockyMartinez, Oct 20, 2011
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  9. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Ah, now this is a matter I will post on. Not just me, here's some posters that actually know what they're talking about:


    I also scored it 117-111. BadLeftHook is proven not to be gospel, apparently Jackiewicz-Rodriguez was a robbery according to them.:blood Writing for a website doesn't mean your opinion is worth a damn, I'm sure of that because I've seen it first hand.

    Anyways, winning a close fight that could've gone either way isn't getting lucky you lummox. Because you still deserve to win don't you? Learn to score, and bring that reporter with you also(unless it's you :think :blood), looks like he needs it. Looks like both of you spunk over ineffective work rate.
     
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  10. Mandanda

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    I can understand why people don't get overly impressed with Navarez due to him not being overly spectacular meaning people miss the little things he does do that have made him a champion for so long. Saturday night sadly for him his '0' will go :happy
     
    Mandanda, Oct 20, 2011
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  11. RockyMartinez

    RockyMartinez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh some of your friend posters? Behave yourself. Contary to your belief you dont know it all.
    So what, people score fights differently, doesnt make you right. Get it into your massive swede you are not the oracle of Boxing
     
    RockyMartinez, Oct 20, 2011
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  12. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Ask those posters how familiar they are with me. IB is the only one to my knowledge that I've had any sustained interaction with. I don't even frequent the general forum, which I'd imagine is where those individuals post. I'd think you'd fit in with the majority over there.

    Stop embarrassing yourself.


    I've been as cordial with you as possible. Don't like it? My thread, leave.:tong

    There are many posters who will tell you that I openly admit to knowing very little in the grand scheme of things.

    :lol: Then why did you pull up a scorecard trying to make a point? You're purposefully going off on a tangent here, and don't think I haven't noticed it. I am right when I say Narvaez wasn't ''lucky'', as are most rational people who watched the fight who are aware of the criteria for scoring a fight. You, obviously, are not one of those people, hence agree with that ''expert'' who scored the fight.

    You've pretty much already made this insult sweet cheeks, I refer to the answer I gave you then. If you want to try to argue Narvaez-Seda, don't just cease all talk of Narvaez-Seda.
     
    jpab19, Oct 20, 2011
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  13. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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  14. Flea Man

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    Donaire is gonna' destroy Narvaez.

    Hopefully after that he fights Nishioka. That will honestly be one of his easiest fights IMO, and probably his best opponent (depending on how highly you rate the Hasegawa and beyond Montiel) but is so open he'll get wiped out inside 5 rounds IMO.

    Rigo' Vs Donaire would be a very intriguing matchup. For Rigo' it's the chance to make good on all his promise and get to the top really quickly. Donaire would have little to gain than kudos from the hardcore I guess. Hopefully Rigondeaux dispatches of Ramos ASAP so Nonito sees more worth in it than taking another step back and fighting Arce, which is a horrible styles matchup and would end in an early K.O win for Donaire.

    I say Narvaez, Nishioka, Rigondeaux, Jhonny, Gamboa. Retire if you want or carry on, ATG status solidified nonetheless.

    Funny thing is it seems feasible for this guy to do all that :lol:
     
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  15. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    • Donaire - 116.25lbs
    • Narvaez - 117lbs
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    Sincere apologies for having no idea how to post Top Rank videos here, but this link has a load of vids regarding the fight if anyone's interested:




    http://www.toprank.com/club/std/ViewCategory.dbml
     
    jpab19, Oct 21, 2011
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