Nonito Donaire vs. Simpiwe Vetyeka

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...and you base this assessment off what, a couple minutes of jumping around to different points of the provided video, watching a few seconds here and there?

You're confidently picking Donaire having never watched a full Vetyeka fight - or, even giving you the benefit of the doubt in saying maybe you did watch the whole John fight - just the one? Without framing it with context? Such as the fact that if you watch from the very beginning you can see how John, as in the Hosono NC before this, was looking vulnerable to a sustained attack? Yes, his offense was less crisp looking than usual because Vetyeka knew what stood in front of him - an unbeaten champ representing a huge boost to his resume and earning potential, against whom all he needed to do was keep pouring it on, as he saw the kinks in the armor widening from the first bell. It was hardly pretty but it was effective. He took care of the business at hand. John was ready to be taken out, so Vetyeka went all carpe diem on his ass.

I certainly didn't put up Donaire vs. Darchinyan II and Vetyeka vs. John to provide examples of a terribly flattering performance for each man (it was obviously just to show their respective most recent outings) - especially in the case of the former, it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. If the latter was your first ever glimpse of Vetyeka, and yet here are people giving him an excellent chance to 'upset' Donaire, it didn't occur to you to maybe probe a little deeper and see what others were seeing before casually passing judgment based on a few minutes' worth of viewing? :nono


If you want to see V12 at his best, check out Vetyeka vs. Yordan (who at that point in time was probably better than John and would have beaten him if they ever got around to having their long-discussed rematch) or even his very competitive loss to Hasegawa.

Vetyeka vs. Yordan:

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Hasegawa vs. Vetyeka:

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Now, if your considered opinion after watching those it that an 'eye test' flunks Simpiwe Vetyeka from consideration as being anything but a mismatched future Donaire KO victim - especially the Donaire we have been seeing lately - it would be my considered opinion that in fact the problem with said eye test is with faulty equipment...that is, get your eyes checked. :deal

Plus, even looking a bit sloppier versus John (knowing he just had to smash the wingless old Dragon up to secure an instant legacy) - even that version of Vetyeka shouldn't be outside his depth with the crappy featherweight version of Donaire we saw in November.

Is he up there with a prime 2008-2011, Hussein through Casimero version of Mthalane? Probably not...but a) 2014 Donaire is a shell of what 2008 Donaire was, b) Vetyeka is honestly not that far behind a prime Mthalane and is certainly now more of a p4p force than current Mthalane looking shaky and swapping knockdowns with Ricardo Nunez...and for damn sure better than Jeffrey Mathebula who many agree gave Donaire fits.

 

Learn the name, because this guy might well be the one beating up Donaire. :good

 

Agree with Nishioka and Narvaez psyching themselves out before they even laced up. Pity because I was a longtime supporter of both and would've preferred to see either of them go out there on their shields making a valiant try (and who knows? As you say, maybe having a bit more success if not even upsetting Donaire...) instead of going out like they both did. :verysad

...and fair play with picking Donaire for those reasons; certainly his chin has always been solid and I'm really not seeing Vetyeka knocking him out. I see Vetyeka putting in more consistent, busier, and maybe cleaner work over 12 and deserving a decision (but possibly controversially losing one)

 

...OK, and 37 year old Vic Darchinyan just three months ago looked to you like, what exactly, prime Winky Wright?

Donaire was losing to a shot old midget (on any unbiased card), and yet the bigger, more skillful (than Darch), peaking Vetyeka to you seems like posterized HL fodder? OK...


Did you by any chance make the same mistake as The Akbar One and watch only a few minutes of the atypically messy John ass whipping, instead of the more representative Yordan and Hasegawa performances?

 

We shall have to see. While there are openings in Vetyeka's style for a world-class counter puncher (which Donaire is) to land tight compact shots, there are just too many other things balancing the scales that don't favor Donaire at this point when you look at what has given him trouble in the last few years: Vetyeka's size, jab, level of activity, etc.

If this goes the long haul I see Vetyeka outworking him, making him miss as Donaire keeps looking for one big counter left hook, and bugging him with his jab and hustle.

Of course, if one hook on the button is all it takes for Donaire to end all that and he lands it, then all that goes out the window.

I'm not too worried about Vetyeka's chin, although it has been tested far less than Donaire's. Hozumi back in '07, smack in the middle of his WBC bantam reign, was hitting pretty damn hard and never phased Simpiwe despite them having fought in a trench much of the night.

Plus, as said above, while he did eventually get in major telling blows on Rigondeaux and Darchinyan, the power of Donaire seems to be noticeably reduced with each weight class he moves up.

Again, we shall have to see.

 

Who R U picking, BE?

NonDon or Simba?

 

...and just what do you know of 'this guy', exactly?

Roughly the same as The Akbar One and Da Professor? ...that you have never seen him on HBO or Showtime, and that in the few minutes of video you bothered to skim around you didn't see any tremendous assets leaping off your PC monitor and grabbing you by the eyes to make you think "HE IS A FUTURE ATG, WHICH APPARENTLY YOU NEED TO BE TO DEAL WITH THE FEATHERWEIGHT DONAIRE WHO DAMN NEAR LOST TO A SHOT OLD MIDGET!!! :shock:"

 

Really? I bang out his name in .05 clicks. (or should that not be pluralized? :huh It is after all "five hundredths of a click"...but there you are identifying the hundredths as the quantity in multiples... less than a second is still part of a second...)