I have just watched Ali-Norton 2 and can't believe the judges gave the decision to Ali! Norton took control in the middle rounds and never relinquished it. Ali could never fathom Norton's style and Ken's pressure and body punching took it's toll. I try to score fights fairly, but there is no way Ali won that fight!
I have to see that fight again, been a long time. It's generally considered the one fight in the trilogy Ali won cleanly.
Yeah, they were all close. Most feel Norton deserved the decisions in their first fight (which he received) and their third fight (which went to Ali). I don't think too many are gonna agree with you on this. A case can be made for Norton in all 3 but I wouldn't call their 2nd fight a robbery.
I'm with you here. I think Norton was very unlucky not to get the nod in the 3rd fight and therefore become the only man to have defeated Ali twice.
Norton certainly beat Ali in their first fight, their third fight I've always seen as being very close everytime I score it its always different but I usually give Norton the edge. The second fight was very close as well but I've always seen Ali winning by a round or two. It can be argued though that Norton won all three fights depending on what you like, two of the three were very close.
First fight in San Diego, Norton easily won, that's the fight Ali had the broken jaw.... Second match i thought Ali won.... Third fight at Yankee stadium, was the closest fight, most folks gave to Norton, and honestly i agree, i thought Norton should have got the nod...:deal
The second fight is seldom talked about. Norton won the 1st and 3rd clean. Can you score it round by round?
second fight was not clear cut revenge but since that was the case it wasnt seen as a robbery the third fight, Norton just murdered him and started him on his way to alzheimers
I have always thought that Norton won all three fights and that Frazier won two out of three against Ali. Young was also cheated against Ali. The money powers that be always wanted Ali to win. Conversely, it was determined that Patterson was no longer a cash cow after the Liston debacles, hence the bad decisions that he received. Liston was no longer an asset after that farce with Ali, so he was pretty much barred. It spoke volumes when Douglas went against the script and upset Tyson. King tried to have the result voided, but he failed. Like everything else where big bucks are involved, there is behind the scenes all kinds of crookedness going on. They don't always succeed, obviously, but not all bad refereeing, unfair decisions, and lack of opportunities are unplanned.
I've watched the second fight numerous times over the years and I always score it the same - An Ali victory by one point. It was close enough for arguement. I have no quarrel with anyone who gives it to Ken. This one,in my opinion,was the best fight in their trilogy.
I have read that insofar as the official scoring went in all three Ali-Norton fights, whichever fighter took the last round won the fight. It is interesting that while there seems to be no argument about Norton winning the first fight, one of the officials did vote for Ali, so the official result is a split decision for Norton. Prior to the second fight, many writers and experts were predicting that Ali would brutally punish and stop Norton in a spectacular victory. Ali was in better shape and took the decision but it was not the blow-out that many were expecting. I haven't watched the fight in a very long time, so until I do, I cannot answer the question at hand.