Norton disses the Louis era

Ah. I don't believe Louis knocks out a peak Norton in the same destructive manner as Foreman did.

 

Louis kos Chinny Kenny.

 

On this thread I just read that 70s fans need to make 70s fighter bigger than what they were.

???

As much as I’ve read, many don’t actually endeavour to do same.

That sentiment also conveniently ignores the fact that many fans of the so called SHWs actually do attempt to inflate the size of their “bigger and better” monoliths, including skimming over the “impossible to ignore” fat compositions of their bodies.

Re height. Tyson Fury 6’9”? Lol. Try 6’7”….and only just.

Just 1/2” taller than 6’6 1/2” Buddy Baer who never looked fat - and Buddy’s listed height of 6’6 1/2” holds up to varied visual comparisons - while Fury’s alleged 6’9”’fails miserably against all other eligible comparisons.

Usyk the same size as Foreman?

In order to make the point, there are those who are happy to quote Foreman’s lower weights during his first career - but for Olek, they conveniently quote his highest career weight of 223 1/2 lbs or so, at age 37/38 for “equitable”
comparison.

Usyk is also more like 6’2” to 6’2 1/2” at best but is often rubber stamped as being 6’3” to fudge the stats for the sake of biased argument.

Foreman was about 6’3 1/2” - plenty of comparisons to support that conclusion - not least being his clear 1” height advantage over Ali.

Doe everyone swallow hook, line and sinker Dubois’ alleged height of 6’5”?

That is an absolutely laughable
claim. Dubois, as reliably compared, is about 6’3 1/2” tops.

I also read someone claim that Bakole is taller than Jack O’Halloran.

???

As far as the stats reflect, they are exactly the same heigh 6’6” - and O’Halloran was another guy whose height was reliably upheld via multiple comparisons and a fighter who never looked fat - rather, he appeared heavily built naturally and quite muscular.

Also, it is not an unreasonable argument to suggest that, beyond a certain size threshold, there are increasingly and overall net losses in terms of the obvious disadvantages that naturally come with greater size……

….And yes, the aforementioned conclusion does align itself with the laws of physics.

 

There's no "tired" in tyre iron That dude could easily go several rounds, hard.

 

Also the aforementioned outstanding boxer at heavyweight at present is a blown up cruiserweight with inflated physical stats who is conditioned to fight 12 rounds unlike the SHW lummoxes he routinely slaps around whose cardio extends to about 6 rounds if they’re lucky.

 

Ironically, Usyk is THE sizeable elephant in the room.

Of course, when one duly highlights Usyk the relative Lilliputian, and his successes against the plodding beasts, to try and offset the solid counter argument, some will say “Aww, but Olek is an outlier, an exception to the rule…”

Of course that type of reply ignores several, comparably sized, equally and even more talented ATGs of the past - and fighters against whom Usyk would encounter far more difficulties than against the current crop of skill/stamina/output challenged behemoths - 6 round fighters, as you so aptly described them. Lol.

 

The SHW bubble burst when 5’11 obese, moderate punching Andy Ruiz stopped 6’6 body beautiful Anthony Joshua before their first fight was half way done.

I recall people tried to classify Ruiz as also a SHW on account of his lard to justify AJ’s defeat. Sorry Ruiz is a SHW like Tony Galento was ie a morbidly obese small statured heavyweight.

 

Yes, and upon checking just now they’re still listing Ruiz as standing 6’2” - haha, another inflation, - Andy is 6’ flat. He rated a decent chance of repeating the victory but came in even more obese for the rematch, disgusting - but AJ still fought super leery - knowing he had to protect that crystal faberge chin of his more carefully second time around. Lol.

 

I still remember all the amazing descriptions of Ruiz after he pole axed poor Joshua. Guy was an overweight Joe Louis. My god there was some shuckin' and jivin' as modernists stumbled end over end trying to explain their boys demise.

 

Inflated boxing heights as always.

 

There's also the matter of Usyk's closest bout (to myself and many others) being against Breidis, who is the same size as him

I remember all the posts desperately trying to explain why fat is so much better than muscle mass Good times.

 

It was his toughest fight without doubt.

Perhaps Usyk was weight drained lol

 

Maybe Oleksander read about the great superhuman Jefferies and decided to dehydrate himself? I mean it must be the only explanation!

 

Peak Norton is a live dog against Louis. He's a live dog against all but a handful of heavyweights.