Nostalgia and how it may influence our views

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  1. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    First off, I enjoy stories about the old timers as much as anyone else. Hearing about people who were actually there to witness fights from years ago is one of the best things about this forum, along with the many well educated posters talking about fighters from before my (and I'm sure most of ours) time.

    However, I sometimes get the feeling, like in many sports, that nostalgia plays a big part in speaking of, and participially rating the older fighters.

    How much of a part do you think this plays when talking about the older generations of fighters and how good they actually were?

    Discuss.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Well, personally, it has nothing to do with any form of nostalgia that the fighters I grew up with would've killed any non-Neanderthal bare-knuckle champ who has come in since his era. Ali ain't surviving the distance with Glurg. That's just a fact. I don't wanna hear anything else about it.
     
  3. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    Great question. I have to say yes. Just like the "good 'ol days" of music influence why we hate today's music.
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nostalgia is BS, we all klnow boxing evolved. Today´s fighters are much superior to the fighters of the past. :bart
     
  5. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alot of it revolves around Ali.
    He is used as the basis point, when comparing fighters.

    Really, an unfair analysis.
     
  6. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    Nostalgia will always be a factor. It is the reader's job to separate the wheat from the chaff.

    Thank goodness for film.

    My recipe is film and the historical record (including how great the praise of the time)blended together for an overall picture.

    Joe Louis' stats, for example, are amazing: 25 title defenses, most ever in any division; 11 uninterrupted years as undisputed champion, most ever in any division!

    The accolades for him from his contemporaries are unique, as he was called the "most perfect fighting machine" ever witnessed.

    And to me the film evidence is on par with the record, as I am simply in awe of the cold-blooded predator I see going for his hapless prey.

    Ergo, Joe Louis must truly be the real deal, certainly one of the very greatest heavyweight champions ever!
     
  7. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    prime,

    Can't go wrong with that,,,,,Joe Louis Numero Uno
    Floyd Patterson's filmed fitness sessions.
    Sonny Liston's sparring sessions.
    Cassius Clay's interviews.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Yeah...


    well, I don´t have any nostalgia for them, because they are not my era, many here in classic are young......We just respect the opinions of our friends from another generations more than we respect the opinions of a guy who doesn´t know the other eras very well....

    I just love great fighters, any era they fought......
    Just my opinion.....
     
  9. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    are you by any chance somebody's ******* that got railed and left prolapsed in the late 60's by the young Clay? Your unnatural exposure to chemicals in the outside air forced you to mutate and sprout slimey, disfigured fingers, with which you use to type in such a unique fasion, these relentless stabs today ?
     
  10. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    Yeah that's a very good point.
     
  11. eslubin

    eslubin Active Member Full Member

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    There's nostalgia and anti-nostalgia. People who over praise the past because it jibes w/their personal belief, and people who disregard it, because it jibes w/their personal belief. Like Tyson. People believe he isn't top 10 because they don't like him. And people believe he is top ten because they do like him. Then you have the peculiarly confused fellows who praise him, but don't like him, and that contradiction somehow gives them more authority as unbiased. God help those creeps!

    So no one will ever scientifically prove superiority of anyone. Pretty much we can close down this forum!!
    lol
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYxoCwLiUbs[/ame]

    www.youtube.com/eslubin
     
  12. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    eslubin, you are a unique and beautiful snowflake
     
  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hope I'm even-handed in my recollections, M. But, must admit, local guys I grew up with have a special place in my heart.
     
  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Listen up, maggot. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.