Nostalgia and how it may influence our views

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Meast, Feb 17, 2011.


  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I always enjoy the contention that the mold was broken decades ago... that the fact no modern correlative exists for say, 160 pounders beating top-level 240 pounders, does not in the slightest dissuade some commentators from asserting the aforementioned 160 pounders would rule the roost in the today's HW division.
     
  2. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    Not at all J, and that's a perfectly valid point. We all have our favourites and there's nothing at all wrong with holding them in high regard.
     
  3. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    m,Interesting subject you bring up.Yes,I as an oldtimer,[first fight I saw, David ko'd Goliath],enjoy my share of nostalgia. No shame in that...But I rate the merits of fighters PAST and PRESENT,on what I have seen,what I have read of boxing's history,and come to a conclusion of their ability's,relative to each other.It can'not be denied that the "oldtimers" fought so much more often,schooled by full-time trainers.Fighting so often,developed great competition,and as we know the cream rises to the top. In the 1940s,to get
    a main event bout at MSG,you had to have 40-50 bouts,or more usually.
    Today for example 10-20 fights can get you a main event fight. Do the math.
    If more "SCHOOLING" doesn't improve one, why is a college course, more than one year ?There are top fighters today, that would have been even better
    were they to have had many more bouts and more full-time teachers and trainers. Of thatI am certain..Cheers..
     
  4. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First of all, nobody beats Glurg, who came even before the time of Burt's father. We all know Glurg was utterly invincible, went 23-0 with 19 knockouts against TRex (who broke his teeth when he tried to bite off Glurg's ear in a clinch), and had a chin totally impervious to the stone clubs of Flintstone and Rubble. (Well, at least according to the Lascaux and Altamira cave pictograph records. Maybe your sources on Glurg's career are more reliable.)

    This would be a really weird forum without nostalgia as an element.
     
  5. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Wow... it's my dream match up come true right before my very eyes... in stunning detail!

    I think I'm going to cry...
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa! Back the jack wagon up a minute here! I never said anybody would actually beat him, and to the contrary, flat out stated that anyone since would be killed by him. You and I are clearly on the same page here, my friend. :deal
     
  7. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    The Undertaker would win on cuts against Vitali.

    Especially if it's a hardcore match.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My apologies for startling you by even repeating the name of he whose reputation is so sacrosanct and inviolate that nobody else dares taking up any discussion concerning him. Forgive me, for I am young and impetuous, and know not what I am engaging in at times.
     
  9. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    You make some good points Burt as always, especially about the trainers of the past. However, I intended this discussion not to be about ''which era of fighters are better'' but how much of a part nostalgia plays when talking about fighters of the past.

    Like I mentioned earlier, it's the same in many sports. When I talk to my dad about football over here he'll always tell me that the footballers of his era were superior to today's bunch.

    Do you think it takes a number of years before a fighter can be fully appreciated? Like when you were growing up, were people talking about Robinson being the greatest ever or did that come later? Cheers.
     
  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    My grandpappy took me to meet Glurg when I was a boy. Glurg didn't have to talk to any comparatively weak, refined, homo sapiens boy. But, he did. He looked down at me, and from behind the huge brow, he winked, punched me in the arm, playfully, breaking it in six places and said "Haruh! Huh! Gah-hah!" with a big, toothy grin. He bashed my grandpappy over the head, in only a half-serious way, lazily, taking and eating his chicken wing, then proceeded to take his pleasure with my aunt after dragging her by the hair to a small fire by his cave. I was awestruck. He was my idol. Not long after, he fought Evander Holyfield for the title, destroying him in two.
     
  11. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SNV would finish Glurg of in a milisecond.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Technically, I believe it's his great (x1000) grandfather. They probably would never fight.
     
  13. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow! What a great experience! He sounds pretty articulate compared to many of today's competitors. And nobody had a way with the ladies quite like Glurg. (Nice to know your aunt wasn't one of those butch haired dykes.)
    Puny steroids no match for dinosaur meat.
     
  14. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great story, Burt, as always.

    Today when men aren't men they look back and cast judgement on Glurg, for the rapes, but why should he be held in comtempt, and today why should my generation be victimised, with reverse-rapecism, when it was but the norm, so were the times when men were men
     
  15. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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