'Not A Fan of Pacquiao'

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  1. MrWonderful

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    It's also a pretty good answer to:

    Why Manny Pacquiao is quite unpopular with people.

    His "fans" just have no respect whatsoever for the sport, or anyone else who fights in it.
     
  2. dangerousity

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    WTF is this bull****? Who decides who demands what?

    Floyd never demanded a catchweight? Oh really? So he would have been perfectly happy to go down to 140 and meet JMM in the middle??? No. He wanted to meet JMM at 144, then went over that and went to 146.

    Manny demanded a catchweight against Cotto? How about Pac meeting Cotto at 140, would Cotto have accepted that? No. So they settled for 145.

    There is always 2 sides to the coin.
     
  3. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You ****ers should take it from Margarito's trainer, Robert Garcia:

    "I knew that Manny was the best fighter in the world, pound-for-pound. He truly is and I know that his speed, his power, his footwork, I wasn't surprised at all. I wanted to see the best Manny Pacquiao, and we saw it. The whole world saw it.

    After this fight, Manny just totally proved to everybody that there is nobody who is near where he is at right now. We probably won't see another Manny Pacquiao ever again. I don't see anybody ever doing what Manny has done. I wasn't surprised.

    What did surprise me was that he took some good punches from Tony. Not only is he so fast and so strong, but he can also take a punch. You know, whatever happened earlier in his career where he got knocked out, all of that has changed, and now, he not only hits hard and is so fast, but he can also take a punch.

    He took Tony's best punch and he kept coming, and he punched smart and he moved around and boxed and didn't take chances. The few times that Tony got him on the ropes and threw some nice uppercuts he was there and took them and kept coming and coming."

    http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/11/16/antonio-margaritos-trainer-speaks-on-manny-pacquiao-fight/

    Why should I care if you don't like or hate Manny? He's considered the best in this era, live with it, or die in envy and hate and racism.
     
  4. MrWonderful

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    I don't personally like Pacquiao because of:

    1: He's only fought brawlers since Marquez exposed a lot of weaknesses. Roach refuses to match him with any fighter who's got the style to trouble him. Brawler after brawler.

    2: He's probably the most obvious juicer in the history of sport. How a guy can not knock out Barrera and Marquez in two of his last 3 fights before hooking up with a notorious trainer like Ariza (who near as damn it admits he dopes athletes), and without putting on more than 2-3 pounds, can go and destroy guys like Margarito, De la Hoya and Cotto is just plain hilarious.

    Then the guy walks out on fights over drug tests?

    3: He's the classic media guy. Who all the casual fans hook on to. Most of whom have no respect whatsoever for any boxer, other than their guy.

    Boxing, usually, is a very respectful sport. With fans of all fighters having respect for guys risking their lives.

    When a guy like Tyson or Pacquiao grabs the mainstream interest, you just get Baseball or NFL fans, flooding boards with hate, and crap, like they think it's a Dallas Cowboys vs. Philadelphia Eagles rivalry.

    4: Most Pacquiao fans have no idea what they're talking about. As in, they've not seen any fight predating 2008.

    5: Most Pacquiao fans just pick up myths off of message boards, and just keep repeating them to annoy people, whether they're true or not.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    People like Floyd because he is the most popular american boxer, their also attracted to his unbeaten record and 80% of floyd fans are black. Same goes with Pac/Filipino fans.
     
  6. MrWonderful

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    Man, why am I discussing boxing with paqcuiao fans?

    The only reason Marquez was at a catchweight, is because Marquez wouldn't fight at 147. End of story. That's it.

    he wouldn't fight at 147, so Floyd had to come down to 144-146 to make the fight.

    As for Cotto, what the hell are you talking about.

    Cotto was 147 world champion. The only reason it was at 144, as Manny wouldn't fight him there.

    Guys only come down to catchweights, below the weight they're fighting at, as their opponent won't fight them there.

    End of argument
     
  7. boxbox

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    I dont like Mayweather because of his stupid antics and his inferiority complex. I like him as a boxer though, but a little too cautious for me. Could add a little more spice, imo.;)
     
  8. MrWonderful

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    What did Margarito's trainer say about Shane Mosely, when he beat him even easier?

    You're a good example of why Manny aint too popular with real boxing fans.

    You think a quote you can find on the net, overrides all logic.

    Manny beat a guy, who's already been beaten, by a 38 year old Shane Mosely.

    Unless you're crowning Mosely as the best Welterweight of the last 20 years, at 38, then matching his achievments means nothing.

    This is why Manny fights guys like Margarito, De la Hoya, Clottey, Diaz

    His fans don't care who he's facing.
     
  9. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So what's wrong with levelling the playing field? Almost everyone fought in a catchweight. Refer the list posted.
     
  10. Gneus7

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    :good
     
  11. MrWonderful

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    "He's considered the best in this era,"

    By people who consider him the best of the era.

    Those who don't consider him the best of his era, err, don;t
     
  12. dangerousity

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    :rofl WTF. How about the fact that JMM was at 135, the only reason the fight was a catchweight is because Floyd wouldnt fight at 140. What, you think JMM would have loved for a fight at 140 but chose 146 instead because it gives him an advantage as its not an official weight?

    omg.
     
  13. MrWonderful

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    Man, again, reason number 99 why Pacquiao is hated.

    His fans have no interest in facts, logic, or history.

    The entire history of boxing, a guys found maybe 20 bouts, where there was a catchweight.

    And only 10 guys who've demanded them.

    None of them for world titles.

    Manny can fight anyone he wants. As long as he admits he's taken the catchweight as it's an easier way to beat them
     
  14. davebenoit

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    Is that you crackhead, Floyd Sr.? :lol: Do you have proofs that Pac is a juicer? If you can't present one, you must at least be respectful to a boxer who has singularly revived boxing to its new heights.
     
  15. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very few actual reasons why people don't like Pac so far.