Not a robbery if no one does anything to win

i agree with you that the real story of this fight is not the robbery, but the travesty that was the fight itself.

Probably the lowest punchstat numbers of all time.

 

Agreed,it was a close fight but I thought Evander did enough.7-5 I had it.

 

That's a solid point, and maybe why you didn't see Holyfield complaining about the decision at the end. But in my mind, a fighter who even lands two or three reasonably solid punches in a round, with his opponent landing zero, has clearly won the round. Valuev's workrate was simply atrocious- he did nothing, NOTHING, to justify giving him more than a few rounds. I really cannot understand how anyone could have a case for him winning 7 of those rounds.

 

I disagree. Holyfield was doing absolutely nothing, dancing and circling, throwing punches that weren't landing. Valuev was just looking at Holyfield.
This happened throughout the fight.
So who wins the fight? The guy who dances and throws punches that don't land or the guy who doesn't even try to do that?

 

Yup, brought back horrible memories of heavyweight fights like Ruiz-Oquendo, or Byrd-Williamson. :scaredas:

Good thing it was brought to all of us at the modest PPV price of 24.95! I'd probably rather slam my head through glass, and pay someone $25 to do it, than watch fights like that.

 

I have to agree. For instance the first rounds, Valuev stalking Holyfield and flicking the jab, some graze holyfield, some miss, then Holyfield connects with 1 or 2 punches that have no effect on Valuev and goes back dancing around the ring, how the **** are you suppose to score such round? I gave it to Holyfield just for those 1 or 2 connected punches, ****ing disgrace of a fight.

 

it was a boring fight but Holyfield won.

 

The score of 116-112 doesn't help. Holyfield clearly won the first 5 rounds through cleaner punching.

But i agree with Pharaoh or whatever the feck his new name is, the worst part of it all was the fight/event itself.

 

good points but how many punches did Holyfield land in the whole fight?

 

The fight should have been called a draw and a rematch ordered. In the new contract both fighers should be made to sign to fight or both be dropped from the rankings, and simple appoint Chagaev the Champion, which is really is anyway. However, Holyfield just ran around the ring and Valouev just walked, that was it. Holyfield did not act like he won the fight because he knew he did not do enough to take the title. Valouev has power, can fight, but chose not to and Holyfield could have tried for a few rounds to make the fight a fight, but nothing. The only one who got robbed were the fans. Valouev should fire his new trainer, who has make him boring.

 

about 30

 

Holyfield clearly won the first 5 rounds i don't care how little he did. Valuev didn't land a single clean shot until the 6th round. Holyfield landed several.

 

It reminded me of Oquendo/Toney from last week actually. I don't understand how people can get that upset when neither guy did anything. I thought Holy won, but I wasn't at all surprised that it happened. When there is virtually nothing to distinguish the fighters, virtually any scorecard is plausible.

May I be struck with lightning, but bring back John Ruiz if it'll save us from these guys.

 

There is no such thing is you have to do enough of anything to win a fight, you just have to do more and better than the other guy and that is what Holyfield did.