Interesting call. I'd push him to great because tho he had a lot of losses he had loads of wins as well and took on anyone anytime. Be interesting to see what others think.
I was looking more for specific cases of 1 definite non ATG beating or giving an outrageous amount of trouble to an ATG. For example Vernon Forrest and Mosley. Norton and Ali.
I do too. He was lineal champ for 4 years or so i believe. Very unsung nowadays and a very complete fighter.
That makes things a lot easier. Marvin Hart and Jack Johnson Choyinski and Jeffries + Johnson Fireman Jim Flynn has wins over Dempsey & Langford if I'm not mistakened Nicolas Walters and Nonito Donaire Ike Quartety and Oscar Delahoya Michael Watson and Nigel Benn + Chris Eubank x2 if you consider both great Steve Collins vs Benn + Eubank... Likewise Golota vs Bowe? Not sure I consider Bowe great though. Montell Griffin and James Toney Timothy Bradley and JMM + Pacquiao
Ted Lowry (vs a green 20-0 Marciano [first fight]) Freddie Norwood (vs JMM) Billy Backus (vs Jose Napoles [first fight]) Kirkland Laing (vs Roberto Duran) Sonny Boy Jaro (vs Pongsaklek Wonjongkam)
Yeah griffin was a sneaky one. gave Jones trouble too. JMM is great imo so I don't consider him giving Pacquiao hell to beat candidate Speaking of Bowe, Tubbs gave him fits Holmes vs Carl Williams
Eddie Davis - Michael Spinks springs to mind, although Spinks still got the official nod and when there is only a single encounter you don't know how much to put down to styles and how much to the favoured fighter having an off-night