Not many American fighters can win big fights abroad anymore

I cant take this thread seriously especially since you are too quick to discredit the times when the few Americans who did fight abroad with success.

 

I see you are just trying to get a response here it is. It's true that the american fighter have fell off of being the top fighters in the world. Even with the number of boxing gyms all over the united states reducing we still are able to hold a title or two. We still hold the best trainers in the world because it seems that most of the good fighters from around the world that want to become great still seems to come to the United states to be trained.

 

I can't take this thread seriously, because I know the TS doesn't know that there is a difference between U.S. fighters and American fighters.

 

Why did Hatton fight in the states? because that is where the biggest fights are held, why should US fighters move away from the biggest arena?

 

Also, I don't understand why you throw in Taylor losing to King Arthur and Jones Jr. losing to Green, when you say "T Bradley beat a shot Witter" I think Taylor and Jones Jr. fall into that same catergory of being shot. Sounds to me that you are just trying to twist and turn and make a point of something.

Couldn't we make the same thread about Europeans (since you did say Americans)

Kessler lost to Ward
Hatton lost to Mayweather
Abraham lost to Dirrell
Klitschko lost to Brewster
Kotelnik lost to Alexander

and on and on. The point is. Some people win on the road, some people lose. That's just the way it goes no matter where you come from.

 

even with boxing gyms closing you probably still have more than treble the amount of the next closest country.

 

lol. And I could make excuses for the fights you made in your OP.
Dawson lost to a fellow American, and it was a close fight and who knows what would have happened in the last 2 rounds.
Dirrell-Froch was close most people thought Dirrell won

Then, I can make excuses for all the fights you mentioned. Taylor was shot, Hopkins was shot, RJJ was shot, Collazo-Hatton was close, etc. etc.

It is really a pointless argument and you are grasping at straws. Like I say, it doesn't matter where you, where are are from, sometimes you win on the road, sometimes you lose, but yet again I don't think you will understand.

 

Cos a warrior fights anywhere, and doesn't have a problem being taken out of his comfort zone. Many US fighters will not even entertain the idea of fighting abroad. If you are a fighter you should fight anywhere and it shows what you are made of fighting in your opponant's backyard.

The best will fight anyone, anywhere!

 

Bailey, in another thread a few days back you discredited Tarver as pretty much just a lucky fighter in the right place at the right time that had done nothing but beat Jones, when it helped your Erdei argument. Keeping that in mind, just how impressive was it for Hopkins to beat him, or Jones go the distance?

And yes Roy was shot, when he fought Calzaghe he had not won a fight of note in 5 years, and still hasn't to this day. Shot to **** Lacy and Sheika, who were never very good in the first place are not meaningful wins either.

And just what had Anthony Hanshaw done to become a contender at LHW? He is a bum, Direll starched him in his very next fight and Roy Jones struggled with him almost the whole fight. Not an impressive victory.

Shot to **** Trinidad, who was 4 weight classes above his prime weight? Had not fought in three years, still won the first 3 rounds against Roy. Not impressed with Roy there at all.

Roy even looks like an old man. I can't believe you would question him being shot.