Not only did Wilder not lose on the cards, he should have won by ko

We're trolls because we didn't see the fight the way you saw it?

Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. How do you know Fury didn't want to get up too early?

Fury is on record stating that he was unconscious and didn't know how he got up. Now you're making up a completely different fantasy to paint this idea that Fury wasn't really down and out and was wily biding his time.

He was knocked out, the ref doesn't decide how a fighter is effected by a punch. As for the rules, maybe you need to read up on the queensbury rules because if Jack had played by the rules he would have waved it off as TKO or let Fury resume the action straight away without giving him a further 10 seconds to recover

3. You don't dominate your oppoonent by only throwing 1-2 more punches and win rounds by causing the other guy to miss. Or by withstanding, with your giant, 45-pound advantage, the other guy's persistent attacks. Nope, not even if you come out of the corner once a round to deliver a feeble combination, to the oohs and aahs of the announcers and the pro-Fury crowd.

Your man, Fury, did little but ably defend himself, mainly by ducking, against an aggressive, pursuing Wilder. And, by the way, get knocked hard on his ass hard twice. Didn't hurt or deter Wilder, and sure as holy hell did not beat him in a fight. Not unless you're a completely delusional dedicated fury fanboy.

 

Damn that was an absolute schooling by Fury... Bitching about a long count that clearly didn't happen is the hallmark of a fighter/fans who know they lost!

Fury fell at 2:25 in the round & was up slightly before 2:15:

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Fact!

A refs 10 count has NEVER been an exact science in boxing so don't act like we need to suddenly have one for Wilder u teared up little *****!

Refs count was fine.. Nothing unusual about it. In fact Fury going on to outbox Wilder for the rest of the round shows he clearly wasn't KO'd & the refs decision NOT to wave it off justified.

So not only was Fury up in time after clearly following a listening to the refs count, he was up into time for the actual minutes clock counting down the seconds on the screen too.

Fury beat the count on the night & beat Wilder too. Getting back up in that 12th was one of the most inspirational things I have ever seen in boxing... Cry us all a big salty flooded river

 

The butthurt continues. If you really believed that Wilder won then you wouldn't feel the need to make hundreds of threads in order to validate your delusional claims, it's the definition of pathetic and pitiful.

 

Thinking Fury didn't beat the count is just about bearable, (though he clearly did) but if you think Wilder won it on points then you IQ is literally 0.

 

Even your boyfriends Floyd Mayweather and Andre Ward admit Fury won lol!

 

Yes. Just imagine if the referee had told the fighters to fight when Fury got up instead of giving him another 11 SECONDS AFTER he got up.

Wilder might have knocked Fury out, like Povetkin did to Price.

Imagine if the ref had only given Fury 10 seconds instead of 21?

That's what people are complaining about!

If the referee hadn't spent 11 seconds talking to Fury AFTER Fury got up and making sure Tyson was okay to continue, Wilder might have knocked him out.

You don't spend 11 seconds talking to a guy AFTER HE GETS UP to make sure he's alright to continue. If he gets up and he's not ready to go, then you stop the fight.

He has 10 seconds to get up. That's it.

If the ref didn't think he was good to go when the ref got to 10, that should've been it.

If he was good, the ref should've waived Wilder in 11 WHOLE SECONDS before he actually did waive him in.

The action doesn't resume when "the guy's head clears."

He has 10 seconds to get off the floor. If he does, the fight is supposed to continue. Right then.

Referees often ask guys if they're okay when they get up by the count of eight or earlier. Because they only get 10 seconds. Just 10 seconds. Not 21 seconds.

The fact that 21 seconds elapsed between the time Fury hit the floor and the referee waived them in to continue fighting IS what people are complaining about.

Watch the video. Tyson goes down in this clip at the 09-second mark. He is up at the 19-second mark. The fight resumes at the 30-second mark.

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THAT'S TOO LONG.

 

Fury did get up at 10. And the fight should've either been stopped at that moment (if Tyson wasn't good to go) or the ref should've wiped his gloves and waved Wilder in.

Fury only has 10 seconds to recover. He got 21 seconds. That was too long.

That's what people are complaining about.

He basically got TWO 10 second counts. One 10-second count to get up. One 10-second count while he was walking around trying to prove his head was clear.

Fighters who go down are usually up by the mandatory eight count. If they get up sooner, the ref still counts to eight. The ref then asks if they are okay and wipes the gloves. All that is supposed to happen within the 10 seconds.

If the fighter can't resume after 10 seconds, then he loses. You get 10 SECONDS. That's it.

That's what a 10 count is.

(Or what it's supposed to be.)

 

Ive never seen a ref not take a look at a fighter before he allows a fight to contintue. Ive never seen a ref wave a fight back on the instant a fighter has got to his feet. Ive seen that **** happening in Wrestling but thats all make believe. All i know is Fury got less time to recover from a brutal knock down than Wilder got time to recover after a minutes rest in the Ortiz fight.

 

Refs look at fighters as they are counting. Most fighters get up before the count of eight. But the ref continues to count to eight (mandatory eight count). The ref then asks while wiping their gloves off if they are okay. The ref then tells them to resume fighting.

It's all supposed to take 10 seconds. TOTAL.

If a guy gets up at nine, the ref is usually looking at him the whole time. The ref makes the decision as they rise or immediately afterward.

(Like the ref waived off the Tyson-Douglas fight as Tyson got to his feet. He didn't let Mike Tyson walk around for another 11 seconds to prove he was okay.)

It's a 10 count. That's what a 10 count means. You have 10 seconds to get up and continue with the fight.

A 10 count is not YOU GET UP before 10 and then walk around until your head clears and the referee doesn't restart the fight until he thinks you're okay enough to fight. (Which is what happened in Wilder-Fury.)

If you AREN'T prepared to fight at 10, then you are supposed to lose.

You only get 10 seconds.

That's what a 10 count is.

99 percent of the knockdowns you've likely watched involved a guy getting up before eight and the ref asking him if he's okay immediately after the ref counts eight. And then the ref restarts the fight.

You don't see a guy get 10 seconds to get up and another 11 to prove he's ready to fight again.

 

I could post a thousand clips like this.

Down at 29 seconds, fight resumes at 39 seconds.

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Once Fury had returned to his feet the ref took about 5 seconds to look Fury over. 5 seconds in a 36 minute fight. 5 seconds to check on a mans health in a blood sport when youve been knocked down from the sports biggest puncher. Complaints for this ref and this moment smell a bit of desperation to me. I see people get as long as Fury got plenty of times in this sport.

The ref not rushing is not what lost Wilder this fight, a superior fighter lost him this fight and some terrible scoring scraped him a draw.

 

How about some modern ones?

 

I agree that the ref gave Fury an unnecessary extra ten seconds after the knock down but the count was fine.

I do find it amusing how Wilder’s fans didn’t have a problem with the shenanigans that went on with the doctor in the Ortiz fight though, that stuff was even worse.

Cheers All.

 

Seriously?

Watch most any fight with a knockdown. Takam goes down at around the 34/35-second mark and the ref steps away to let the action continue at around the 45-second mark

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To put that in perspective, 21 seconds after Takam went down the first time, the ref had issued his 8-count, waived the fighters to continue, Chisora moved in and scored a second knockdown, the ref waived the fight off, people entered the ring and Chisora was already climbing the ring post.

In the Wilder-Fury fight 21 seconds after Fury went down, the ref finally got around to restarting the fight.

It was WAY too long.