Now Ali,Holmes and Frazier give Marciano Props

Think the Rock gets stop on cuts thing is over played imo.

Marciano only had one mere fight were it was close to being stop on cuts, the Charles fight, and even than, the Doc who was the only guy that had the right to stop fights in regards to cuts, said he was not going to stop the fight.

 

You just compared Cooper's tendency to cut with Marciano. This is ridiclious! Cooper had the high bone structure which had his face bleed virtually all the time. Marciano was rarely cut that bad. He was never threatened to have a fight stoppage because of a punch (Key word, punch). So how are the two comparable? Cooper had tons of stoppages on his record and looked like a bloody messy 4 rounds in.

 

I don't think that's true. However, it's reported that an elbow caused that cut. That's a freak cut either way.

 

Its true, the interview following the fight, also the commantary blow by blow mentions nothing about in urgent need to stop the fight.

The doc said in regards to the cut that sure it was bad, but he knew Rocky was not hurt, and not effecting his VISON. So he was not going to stop the fight on the cut.

If a ref was going to stop the fight on cuts, they call in the Doc to see if he can go on or not. And Marciano could have gone on.

There was no ref visiting Rocky for 1 more round, ete. The cut thing in that fight gets overplayed.

 

Interview with the ref and or doctor? That's hindsight anyway, and not the way Sonny (Rocky's brother)recalls the fight. Why would the commentator knew when it was covered with a bandage? He knew it was bleeding and probably hurt terribly but couldn't neccessarily foresee a stoppage. Plenty of people back this story.

Maybe, but that certainly makes the fight more dramatic. However, I've heard the story countless times from historians to people close to Rocky so I don't do it's viability.

 

they stick to the story, because it helps Rocky's legend.

 

I have read that the in the Keene Simmons fight ,Rocky was in danger of being stopped on cuts.

 

Fine post Greg, with which I broadly agree ,just one quibble, Charles may well have been the uncrowned LHVY Champ ,but he never actually held the title ,or fought for it.

 

Imo,Cooney did n't really trouble Holmes. He landed a few decent punches,but Holmes looked pretty much in control all the way. I would put Marciano somewher in my top 15 heavies,but no higher. He was the best of his era,though.

 

D'oh ! I've just done Signor Marchegiano a diservice. I meant the bottom half of my top 10 heavies. Apologies to marciano acolytes..!

 

Seen a pic of the fight, and judging by it, Rocky did get cut over the eye, but it didnt look any worse than the cut over the eye he got from Charles in the first fight. In fact, it look like just other type of cut, nothing to bad to stop a fight imo.


It was no were near the level of Cooper or even VK vs Lewis.

I dont even think that cut would stop a fight today.