Now, heres' my analysis of calzaghes punching power !!!!

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  1. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    lacy isn't definitely elite. he isn't even A-level like kessler.
     
  2. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ahhh,so all of a sudden hopkins is an elite fighter then?joe's win must stand in good stead then,although it was a 43 year old,he was still a great stategic fighter who got outworked over the 12 rounds,remember this is a 37 year old calzaghe we're talking about here,not the 20 year old whose hands didnt bother him and his speed was even better,calzaghes detractors fail to mention this and on ramblings about prime hopkins beating cals ass,yes prime hopkins probably owuld have beaten the calzaghe that fought on saturday night,but who is to say what a fight with both in their primes would have been like.

    for me it was a great fight,i really enjoyed it and to say calzaghe doesnt have any power is ludicris,why on earth was hopkins holding such a high guard when on the outside,people on here don't make any sense in there statements and although calzaghe may not have 1 punch power he has enough that when he hits 5 times in one combo its going to hurt,and saying that,what other fighter has hit hopkins with combos,none!it has to say something about calzaghe,hopkins did not have deteriorated skills only deteriorated stamina over 12 rounds.
     
  4. larryx

    larryx mr x knockem out Full Member

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    but they say puching power is the last thing you loose but i hear calzaghe has bad hands so i figure thats it
     
  5. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    i agree. although i can say that hopkins was visibly hurt on some of his punches.. some people might say i am overrating calzaghe but the way he handled hopkins.. he really beat him imo
     
  6. larryx

    larryx mr x knockem out Full Member

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    hopkins has been elite what are you talking about//he had his guard high because he was fighting joe calzaghe not a bum!!!b-hop knows calzaghe has hand speed he wasn't worried about the power//boxing is hit and don't get hit
     
  7. 2fatandslow

    2fatandslow New Member Full Member

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    do you think the extra 7lbs played a factor in Calzaghe looking alittle slower.
     
  8. larryx

    larryx mr x knockem out Full Member

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    what fight were you watching he didn't hurt hopkins he out threw him and hopkins stamina faded but this was by no means a beat down calzaghe actually got the worst of it calzaghe won the boxing match but lost the fight
     
  9. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    hopkins is still an elite but definitely way past his prime. he's 43 years old after all and has fought more brutal ring wars and much better opposition than calzaghe in his career. calzaghe is an elite too but his punching power definitely isn't (not even A-level) and that's why old hopkins wasn't even hurt or staggered w/ calzaghe's best punches.
     
  10. Canadianfan

    Canadianfan Active Member Full Member

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    I don't if that's it, for whatever reason Calzaghe has no interest in throwing straight punches though. It works for him at this point in his career I guess. The only time I've seen him lately throw some straight punches was against Kessler and that's only because he had to adjust and back Kessler off, not suprisingly once his punches were straighter Kessler did back off.
     
  11. larryx

    larryx mr x knockem out Full Member

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    no hopkins just made him look bad calzaghe is kinda like del a hoya not good with mobile fighters but spectacular against flat footed punchers
     
  12. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yea i know im not comparing resumes at all,i'm just stating that hopkins really is a defensive master and can make anyone look bad,its just saying something that calzaghe looked good against him no matter what anyone says,he looked fighter than most do against hopkins,he was able to fight on the inside and was not scared to fight rough like hopkins,its just a pity that people cant realise that calzaghe is an excellent fighter and continue to have to pick out flaws in him even though he has showed time and time again that he has the goods,boxing is not about knocking people out and calzaghe does not aim for this much like hopkins,they are complete contrasts and it shows,as hopkins sits in the pocket waiting for someone to open up,while calzaghe does the exact same so he can use his speed to score points through combinations.
     
  13. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's amazing how people belittle Calzaghe's performance. the guy is freakin 36 himself! He fought one of the best in the world veterans who JUST BEAT Tarver, and Wright! I don't care if he is 43....He just beat those two so I don't see what it matters.
    As for Calzaghes power...He has moved up in weight, his whole gameplan was to pressure Hopkins, and throw a lot of punches. It's quite hard at 36 years old to throw a lot of punches, and make all of them HOMERUNS! He'd be gased in no time. He'd throw some slaps, and occasionally throw a nice, stiff punch. Hopkins was never really hurt, but you could tell Joe did hit him very well every now and then. Besides, it's hard as hell to hit somebody when you start to flurry, and they grab you!!!! How many clinches did Hopkins initiate in that fight??? Reminded me of the Hatton/ Mayweather fight. Mayweather tired Hatton out by grabbing, wrestling, holding him until Hatton was so dead my 7 year old neice could have hit him, and ko'd him.
    Fact is Hopkins didn't do anything to win that fight. Knock down in rd 1. The rest of the time it was Hopkins throwing (1) right hand, and running in with his head, and then clinching...Trying to headbutt maybe??? You people give him a lot of respect, and let him get away with a lot because he is a legend...but fact is he's a legend that doesn't care to resort to dirty tactics.
    As for Calzaghe I wasn't extemely impressed, but he definitely won. Hard to look impressive over somebody like Hopkins. If he'd do Emanual said, and step back, give him a nice little uppercut that would have been real one sides for Joe, if not a knock down. It's his style to come forward though so it's hard for him to wait, and focus on the counter punch.
     
  14. ki_ote

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    Yes indeed, hit and don't get hit, that's exactly what won the fight. One guy got hit more!

    You finally hit the nail on the head. So your power arguements really don't mean **** at this point. Power did not factor in the final decision. The object is to win, the knockout is the icing on the cake.
     
  15. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe has plenty of power. If they were just slaps im sure any boxer in his weight class would just walk right trhough them.