Now Ortiz suddenly becomes a legit THREAT...

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  1. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not a Pac fan dip****. We've been through this already.

    And I don't give a **** about your ******ed video expose. Did not click. I just want Mayweather to quit being a dickless ***** and fight Pac.
     
  2. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am a huge Cotto fan and am 100% convinced it was not Cotto's fault that fight never happened. Cotto was an unbeaten force of nature back then. He has never shirked a challenge in his career.

    But, between Mayweather and Arum who knows why it fell through?
     
  3. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Again, there's *****s and then there's the ESPN, every important boxing analyst on the planet, and everyone else with two brain cells to rub together.

    Kinda lonely out there in dip**** land, ain't it?
     
  4. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Update: no Floyd fans have given odds predictions on the scintilating spectacle that Mayweather/Ortiz is sure to be *snicker*

    They seem rather shy on this point.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who on ESPN is a quality Boxing analyst? The tub-o-lard who has never Boxed? The guys with the spray tans and hair gel who again have never Boxed? Maybe the NBA guy who think wining golf tournaments trumps being the oldest champion in Boxing history? :think Or the ONE guy who is a trainer and has been in Boxing his whole life that hates Pac? :lol:

    Is it lonely in Dip**** land? You tell me. You seem to be quite comfortable living there.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    well at least mosley has the "puncher's chance". ortiz would not trouble floyd in any single way.
     
  7. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    outside of Pac...odds will heavily favor Floyd against Cotto and Margo especially Margo.....

    Ortiz is better than Margo....what does Margo do better than Ortiz?

    His chin and power and he is aggressive....what else does he do that makes him that much better than Ortiz?
     
  8. crimson

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    See this is what is wrong with boxing. It is not the casual fans but the supposed "HARDCORE fans".

    It is another "What have you done lately" attitude

    Before Berto, Ortiz was being laughed at. Glass heart. Nut-less HBO hype job. I kept reminding people that he was only 22 and needed time to develop.
    Then Berto comes along and people who wanted to see Pac vs fast slick black fighter attempted to elevate Berto to some "hungry lion with pop and speed" that can test Pac's chin and will destroy Ortiz.

    Guest what, Ortiz checked the ****ing chin and trashed him using his heart. Berto goes off crying and had HUGE FAIL attempt to try to discredit Ortiz with some PEDs accusations.

    Now the same people who said Berto is going to crack that glass hear HBO hype job is calling Ortiz as the greatest thing since Pac and PBF.

    WTF! WTF!!!! Do you guys have amnesia or something?

    Where were you guys duing Lamont? Harris? etc.

    Does ONE ****ING FIGHT against a NON top 10 P4P suddenly make you a beast???? Does it really take only ONE fight to be praised so much in ESB? I thought you guys are hardcore boxing fans that understand this sports better than some casual fan?

    If you guys where alive during SRR days, I bet you would dismissed SRR after his first defeat and called him a coward for not fighting guys like Burley.

    Yes, Berto was BY FAR the best win for Ortiz but that is because his resume before that is ONLY SLIGHTLY better than Berto to begin with. The DUDE IS A YOUNG TALENT. He is NOT some juggernaut that has cleaned up JrWW is now moving up to face one of the greatest fighters in history.




    Yeah, change opinions when your original one does not suite your current agenda.


    BTW - for you ******s with reading comprehension problems - I actually dont have a problem with the fight. I think it is great. But stop using hyperbole to make it something that it is not so it will suite your agendas.
     
  9. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Definitely not Cotto's or Floyds.....Arum didnt want to put his at that time cash cow on the line.

    I like Cotto for the reasons you said up there however.....he at no point would beat Floyd and in his prime peak before Margo....his best....he maybe is competitive for 6 rounds at the most with Floyd and thats me giving him the benefit of the doubt in a fight between them.
     
  10. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    talk about the pot calling the kettle calling the kettle calling the pot....lol....i had to say it i heard it on an episode of Martin.....that shyt was so confusing when he said it had me laughin hard as hell.
     
  11. Royal-T-Bag

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    LOL buthurt *******s everywhere today. Let the discredit game begin! I seem to remember several of these fools hoping for a Pac vs Ortiz fight but today Ortiz is a bum appearantly. Holy **** guys boxing news that doesn't involve Pac....better slander whoever's stealing his shine for the day. Last week it was Froch getting slandered and discredited, the week before it was Maravilla, ****'s hilarious they can't stand people talking about anything besides Pac cause they ain't real boxing fans. Ortiz is a young hungry fighter with power and a southpaw stance and he's the best welter in the world that isn't Floyd or Pac... not to mention coming off a HUGE win, what more could you ask for? There are only 3 acceptable fights for Floyd and Pac right now- 1. each other 2. Martinez
    3. Ortiz. There you have it tards
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You gotta love how their boy Pac chose Mosley over Berto and now Ortiz beat Berto, who Manny ducked, but now Ortiz is no good.

    Ortiz is the champ and this is a great fight. Pac, once again, screwed up.
     
  13. jeffjoiner

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    Obviously, I'll give my guy a little more credit than that. Cotto's body shots might have slowed Money down a bit and kept him in it.

    Anyway, that's neither here nor there and I'm looking forward to seeing if Ortiz can knock Money on his ass in a few months.
     
  14. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    The only time he gets to work on Floyd's body is if Floyd goes to the ropes....in the middle of the ring....Cotto gets outboxed thouroughly.

    On the ropes Floyd is even dngerous as i have always said as he shoots strong short shots that hurt...he buckled a healthy 154lb Oscar with a couple shots while Oscar was opening up oon the ropes.....that shot that buckled oscar drops Cotto. Floyd covers his body extremely well in that shell....he is hard to hit and Cotto is wide open for counters that will hurt his chin is average at best.

    Cotto's best punch the jab is brilliant...however i know you have seen Floyd fight long enough to know he would pull counter that jab early and take Cotto's confidence away with it. After Cotto abandons the his excellent jab....how does he close then? Keep in mind his defense is average at best. Floyd has timed way faster fighters than Cotto. He actualy timd Oscar's jab very well...people say Oscar just stoped throwing it....no he was trying to adjust to what Floyd was returning when he threw his jab.

    He doesnt have one punch KO power....he's not outboxing Floyd and he not smarter than Floyd boxing wise.

    I just don't see how he wins
     
  15. NotAnMMAfan

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    Initial odds has Floyd being favored 10-1 :rofl