Now Taylor has been beaten...will Americans accept Hopkins is nothing special now?

The reason Hopkins lost to Taylor was because he went into a shell as soon as he got hit by a few hard punches, Pavlik however kept comming even though he got floored, now thats what you call hunger and determination.

 

Not because the same conclusion, but because you can't see the obvios. I've just watche th 2nd round and punches landed by Taylor were murdorous. ****! You have to have a chin to get up from blows like that!

What question? :huh

 

Exactly, the guys thinking differently sound like they are making excuses at this point.

 

Yah pity JC aint till now had the bottle to fight any of them,that proves to me hes not really 100% he could have beat them,hes only fighting kessler now,becasue he aint got any other options,he cant keep fighting complete jokes like manfredo jnr for ever,his fans aint that ****ing dumb are thet?,oh yeah your one,so sadly they must be

 

You probably said the exact same thing about him when he signed to fight Lacy, "duh, well, err, I mean he's only ever fought bums and he's only fighting Lacy coz he's got no other options, he can't fight bums all his career"

 

Next to racism, this european(british)/american dispute is the one that sucks the most!

 

Isn't it!! Pathetic really. But then again, when your told that all European fighters haven't done anything until they've fought in America, it gets a little annoying. Why should it matter where they've fought? Do these people not have T.V's? The internet?

Yet they will rate fighters that fought in the early 1900's, because of herasay.

 

are you talking about hopkins now, or a prime hopkins? Because a prime hopkins is as elite as they come. watch his fight against glenn johnson and tell me that hopkins doenst give everyone problems.

 

He's power always was solid, if you bought that **** "Taylor is feather fisted" than you have to reeducate yoursef. :-(

Abraham would never theow such combos, Abraham is far more stiff than Taylor. And he really didn't look that good in his last fight. What if Pavlik would land his shots on Abraham like that Gevor dude?

 

I really doubt abraham wants anything to do with pavlik. expect abraham to avoid him like the plauge.

 

What an idiotic thread. Claiming that this proves Hopkins was always overrated is a joke.

 

Just put this **** on ignore like I did. Life's too short to listen the crap he spews out.
To be fair I'd be pretty annoyed if I were american and listening to CHJ bash my fighters all the time.

 

In which case Tito looks really bad.

 

This fighter A did this to fighter B, and fighter B lost to Fighter C type logic is all a bit strange.

What is obvious is that some of these MW's just aren't that good. Hopkins is well past his best as you'd expect (what is he - about 58?). He still put in creditable performances against a decent if not outstanding boxer in Taylor.

I'm a massive Wright fan, but he looked like he'd lost his sharpness against Taylor. He looks flat footed. He's on the slippery slope.

Pavlik is a good puncher, he's far from a great boxer. He does reflect pretty poorly on the division.

What is pretty clear is that these guys wouldn't have a cat in hells chance against Kessler or Calzaghe.

 

Nah, Winky can still make 160