Now Taylor has been beaten...will Americans accept Hopkins is nothing special now?

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  1. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think PBF is better than Hatton but that doesn't mean that I want the ***** to win.
     
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  2. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I endorse this post... except I want Floyd to dance on the floor.
     
    DanePugilist, Sep 30, 2007
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  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes I support whoever is the more talented fighter, almost without exception.
     
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  4. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Racism, SCHMASEISM!!!!


    Rematch Pavlik vs Taylor vs winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler= The best available:yep
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The more talented fighter is generally the one who wins. There are stylistic exceptions.

    Perhaps this is at the root of your Calzaghe impersonation?
     
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  6. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, always back the favourite.....I call that playing safe.That must be boring as hell. Most of us have favourite boxers. Sometime it's down to skill, sometimes it's down to personality, sometime it down to the way they fight.

    You are the kind of guy who supports the team thats currently top of the league?
     
    mattress, Sep 30, 2007
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  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll occasionally root for an old talented fighter who is the underdog, against a less talented fighter who will simply win because they are younger. The same can apply with people moving up in weight.

    This myth that I dislike American fighter for being American is incorrect. There happen to be a lot of overhyped Americans, so I try to bring them down. People remember these instances, not less controversial ones where I praise deserving Americans like all time P4P number 2 Roy Jones. Selective memory.


    I do not approve of supporting your local football team.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Sep 30, 2007
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  8. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
     
    mattress, Sep 30, 2007
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  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh course if it is someone fighting way, way past their prime I'll root against them, for being stupid enough to put themselves at risk.

    35 year old Calzaghe vs the younger Kessler is an instance where I'll root for the old underdog. I promise you I don't just mould my rules to suit supporting Calzaghe.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Sep 30, 2007
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  10. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Me neither....I hope Calzaghe knocks Kessler out cold!
     
    mattress, Sep 30, 2007
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  11. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't want to do Kessler in too badly, or Kesslers name losses meaning. I don't believe he will anyway.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Sep 30, 2007
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  12. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's always been Calzaghes problem though. He makes decent fighters look bad and suddenly the deposed challenger is being made out as useless (Lacy). People just don't like giving some people credit when it's overdue.
     
    mattress, Sep 30, 2007
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  13. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The problem with Calzaghe is alot of americans never seen him on hbo or showtime before so like they really only heard about him, wether its true or not he before the Lacy fight he was looked at as a fighter that was well protected and never fought the big name fighters. After I seen him destroy Lacy I gave him the props he deserved, its just too bad he didnt fight too many big name fighters in america cause that could of helped his career.
     
    box03, Sep 30, 2007
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  14. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not his fault that most wouldn't fight him (I ain't gonna argue over that one!) but Lacy was the clear favourite with most boxing writers, fans and the bookies. What more can you do but school him?
     
    mattress, Sep 30, 2007
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  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People seem adverse to giving him credit based on what they cans see in front of them with their eyes. They demand big names on a fighters record. However when you see someone as good as Calzaghe, you don't need massive victories as reference to make some huge claims.
     
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