Now that Castillo is done, where does he rank?

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is pretty much the end for Jose Luis Castillo. He'll probably continue fighting for the money but I don't see him ever beating anyone of note again.

    Assuming there's not another chapter to write in his book, where will he be placed?

    I know he probably doesn't have an all time p4p standing, but let's talk lightweights. How good of a lightweight was he? Does he crack top 20, 30, 40, 50, not even, amongst the lightweights?
     
  2. grumpy

    grumpy Member Full Member

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    good question, it's kind of like ranking dwight muhammad quai.
     
  3. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Personally, I rank him ahead of Corrales.

    I think he was a great lightweight, and had I been in charge of the "Chico" matchup I'd have stopped it earlier - But full credit to Corrales for showing the heart of a warrior and winning the bout.

    Realistically, the only fighter he failed to beat in his prime (at lightweight) was Mayweather - I don't buy the business that he won the first fight, but he did trouble him. He has wins over Corrales (tainted admittedly), Diaz, Casamayor, Lazcano, Johnston among other credible competitors, and aside from Mayweather is the greatest lightweight of his time, in my opinion anyway.

    His fight with Hatton at 140lbs aside, he's never been blown away in a matchup, I think he deserves to be remembered as a top20 lightweight.
     
  4. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pretty hard to rank him.

    I think he deserved the first Mayweather fight but definitely lost the second one. He beat Corrales, Casamayor, Diaz... ain't that bad when we look at it.

    Lightweight division is probably the most skilled division so far (IMO), welterweight comes after. So right now I would say he is top 30/35. I need to look after it.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Top 30 for sure at the moment. Let's let things simmer for a while.

    Corrales, Casamayor and Mayweather are quality fighters. Johnston, Bazan, Lazcano, Diaz are also good to excellent fighters.

    I have him as technically undefeated at 135. I've got him 1-1 with Floyd and Corrales.

    I think he is a quality fighter and part of a tremendous era. Mayweather, Corrales, Freitas, Casamayor and Castillo were a classy little fivesome. They all lost and beat each other. Freitas has broken away in that sense but it appears Diaz could do some big things for that to eventually not matter.

    Many of the guys he beat are still making noise. Casa is the best 135 pound fighter in the world, Diaz beat a quality Chavez and Mayweather continues to add to his greatness.
     
  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Yeah, it's no shame if when all is said and done he ranks top 30. At 135 that is a very impressive feat.
     
  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    good post, Personally i'd have him somewhere in the top 20 lightweights atg
     
  8. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very solid workmanlike fighter that has been one of the best fighters in the division for years without ever really looking a great imo.

    He arguably didn't deserve the decision against Johnston in either fight and that hurts him as Stevie is the best fighter he fought other than Mayweather.

    Wouldn't be out of place between 25 to 30 i suppose if you happen to think highly of him.Also wouldn't be a disgrace to leave him out entirely of a top 35.

    Lightweight really is deep.Castillo was a very good fighter...there have been a great many of those in the division.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I have to disagree. He sure looked great v Mayweather and Corrales.

    Johnston is not better, at least on paper, than Corrales or Casamayor.
     
  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    He could end up that high. It's nice to see he is getting credit.

    I hate it when old school/ quality fighters in the modern era don't get credit.

    I accept the classics sections opinions on things. The GF disgusts me.
     
  11. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rank him about the top 40 perhaps. No less than 51. As said before the lightweights is pretty deep. I belive 20 is a bit high.
     
  12. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he was certainly better than Corrales(not a big fan of Chico) and Casamayor was past his prime and very small compared to Castillo, who didn't look too good in taht fight.
     
  13. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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  14. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think history will be kind to Castillo. He won some big fights in his time. But I think he will not be as much concerned about his place in Boxing Championship History, as much as in Mexican Champion history. But for now he will be remembered as the only man to defeat F. Mayweather. (And he Did).
     
  15. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    Gotta wait a few years to see what his opponents do.
     


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