Now that Castillo is done, where does he rank?

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  1. Lostmykeys

    Lostmykeys Active Member Full Member

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    Then name 50 lightweights better than him.
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    You got to go by what a guy did. Chico has wins over Garcia when he was streaking, Casa when he was on top form and other good wins like Gainer. That's at 130. Not to mention excellent wins in Freitas and Castillo.

    Casa was not past his prime when Castillo fought him.

    Casa, Castillo, Freitas, Corrales and Floyd all had close fights against each other. They were all excellent fighters.

    Castillos close fights with Johnston are indictive of the what Johnston could do. Unfortunately Johnston didn't do what he could do on paper. I consider Johnston an excellent fighter.

    Some consider him undefeated until he fought Lazcano. They don't think he lost to Bazan or Castillo.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Castillo imo has been a bordrline great. He has put in very consistent, (albeit not outstanding) perfromances, never being outclassed despite facing a high level of opposition.



    I have him ranked 46th all time as a lightweight.



    The lightweights go deeper than any division in the sport, and the ranking I have for him is not an insult imo. At the same time he COULD be ranked as high as 30 without it being in any way absurd, as there is not much the separates guys in the 30-50 bracket.


    One of the deciding factors in ranking him is deciding how his close fights against Mayweather, Johnston, Casamayor and Lazcano went. Other than both Johnston fights, which I had Stevie edging, I think he beat the others. Although admittedly, all those close bouts could have gone either way.

    Here's my list:

    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Benny Leonard
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Joe Gans
    5. Pernell Whitaker
    6. Ike Williams
    7. Julio Cesar Chavez
    8. Barney Ross
    9. Tony Canzoneri
    10. Carlos Ortiz
    11. Alexis Arguello
    12. Jack Blackburn
    13. Lew Tendler
    14. Lou Ambers
    15. Dave Holly
    16. Esteban DeJesus
    17. Beau Jack
    18. Bob Montgomery
    19. Ken Buchanan
    20. Jack McAuliffe
    21. Sammy Mandell
    22. Jimmy Carter
    23. Freddie Welsh
    24. Willie Ritchie
    25. Oscar De la Hoya
    26. Ismael Laguna
    27. Joe Brown
    28. Shane Mosley
    29. Floyd Mayweather
    30. Battling Nelson
    31. Wes Ramey
    32. Willie Joyce
    33. Lew Jenkins
    34. Ad Wolgast
    35. George Lavinge
    36. Billy Petrolle
    37. Sammy Angott
    38. Hector Camacho
    39. Jimmy Britt
    40. Rocky Kansas
    41. Mando Ramos
    42. Ray Mancini
    43. Jose Luis Ramirez
    44. Edwin Rosario
    45. Ritchie Mitchell

    46. Jose Luis Castillo
    47. Jim Watt
    48. Stevie Johnston

    (That's excluding Napoles, Pryor, Locche, Loi, McFarland and Griffo who I rate at different weights.)
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm one of the some :good