Now that he's an 8-weight champ, is it time to start thinking of Pac as a top 20 ATG?

Hes good but come on stop with the 8 division champ ****.

It was a vacant belt and it wasnt even at the weight.

 

Yes of course & a win over Floyd puts him in the top 10 IMHO.

 

This :deal

 

Which one of these men should drop out ?

Robinson
Ali
Armstrong
Greb
Charles
Duran
Leonard
Pep

Ps. Thats not necessarily my list but those are the constant names that will be thrown up.

 

Idk

 

really good is not great though. His resume at lightweight is not near some other great lightweights. And his win against Ray is ok but Ray fought his fight, and Duran then quit in the rematch. And Duran's loss against Benitez a little over a year after his loss to Leonard shows how he cannot deal with fast handed greats. His win against Ray was not dominant. And losing the rematch and rubbermatch so conclusively proves something.

 

1. take your pick lol, i'll throw same names about that would have meant more. cotto rematch, clottey rematch, bradley, khan, berto, mosley, mora, rhodes, angulo, alvarez, jcc jr, martinez, williams, bundrage, dzindzuruk. i'll stop at 15.

2. technically floyd has, hatton, jmm, mosley? im sure odlh would have. i cant be arse going on boxrec, but there will be boxers like hopkins etc who have been at the top for a while. lol an example would be calzaghe haha, kessler, hopkins, jones.

3. loads of people have, that is my point, floyd has, hearns, jones, odlh, duran, leonard. im just saying that it seems much better because he turned pro earlier, but a lot of people started off light at 16 and became much heavier. froch for instance is another example. im not taking anything away from pac, im just saying that if the other boxers would have turned pro at 15/16 they would have jumped similar weights.

4. well you made the post about floyd. only a ***** would do that. there were loads of names in the post and you singled out floyd. that is a ***** IMO

p.s.i like the way you order your responses :good

 

1. WTF!
clottey rematch, cotto rematch, mora, rhodes, angulo, alvarez, jcc jr, bundrage, dzindzuruk.

Did you actually just said these names instead of Marg? Hell I understand about the plaster factor not liking Margo but in regards to competition or accomplishment... WTF!!!!

JCC JR???? REEALLY

 

How do you get to be a top 15 fighter if you never ever mixed it up with another top 30 fighter.... You know.. kind of like the other guys did.

 

please read this :good