Now that Money is Retired

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MacManJr., Jun 19, 2008.


  1. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's different. hopkins has a better resume than Taylor.
     
  2. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    naturally smaller how? Pac started fighting below 122.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I saw them stand next to eachother. I also don't see JMM planning on fighting Ricky Hatton at 140lbs :good Delahoya started at a lower weight then Judah.....does that mean he's the smaller man?
     
  4. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Pac's height means everything? Paul Williams should never lose then. This naturally smaller **** is a waste of time unless Pac tried to fight Winky or somebody completely outrageous.
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    What? I didn't say anything about height specifically.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes they are 2 of the best but not the two best that belongs to Pac and Calzaghe who rank 1 and 2 respectfully in the P4P rankings.
     
  7. Undisputed520

    Undisputed520 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto will be one most likely by this time next year.

    on a side note

    I hope PBF gets raped by a clown
     
  8. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what naturally bigger is mostly about. How else is pac any bigger than jmm?
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Mike Tyson is NATURALLY bigger then Paul Williams is he not. Height factors in but it is not everything. Ability to carry weight...frame, height, reach, neck size, chest size, shoulder width.....do I really need to explain all the aspects of size to you?????
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Calzaghe...psssh!
     
  11. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do I really need to explain to you that size aint **** if JMM is supposedly so much better than Pac? Floyd beat Oscar. Are you gonna tell me Floyd is naturally bigger than Oscar?
     
  12. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    No Calzaghe deserves to be in the mix.
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    My head is starting to hurt here!!!!! Size aint ****?!?!?!?!?!? You know this is a P4P discussion??? If a smaller fighter draws with a bigger fighter, it is reasonable to say that the smaller fighter is the better P4P fighter.....am I wrong. I'm saying that JMM outboxed Pac, came extremely close to getting a decision over him....and would have if it wasn't for that one KD, but I also pointed out that there were points in that fight that JMM actaully had Pac hurt more then JMM was hurt from the punch that knocked him down.....he didn't even look dazed. I don't care what you say...NOBODY who watched that fight walked away thinking "Pac is definitely the better fighter".....now accompany all of that with JMM being the naturally smaller man and you can easily come to the conclusion that on a P4P basis, JMM might be better, meaning if Pac didn't have the (slight) size advantage JMM may have beat him even more convincingly :good
     
  14. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    No, unless Izzy also cleaned house in the 122 - 126 range. Beating a peak R. Marquez (who was my #2 P4P before their trilogy started) twice counts for a lot in my book, and it's not as if Izzy wasn't already a P4P fighter before the trilogy started. Cotto didn't become a legitimate P4P fighter until he beat Mosley and some of his earlier scalps started to show that they were better than we originally thought.

    If Cotto beats Margo, Oscar and Williams (which seems unlikely, only for the scheduling), then Vasquez would need to become undisputed at 122 or beat a couple of top dogs at 126 to keep pace.
     
  15. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl