Now that the dust has settled and floyd is facing the tougher comp......

you should vote in your own poll. :yep

 

No.

That he didn't agree to take Floyd's test, in light of there never previously having been even a whisper of juice on Pac's part, is NOT evidence, any one way or another.

Floyd is not in the driver's seat here.

Pac holds the belt he seeks and the Ring ranking he wants.

Of course Pac should not have agreed to any special tests, over and above those administered for every other title fight ever fought.



And as far as walking away from the fight, it was IMO, Floyd who did that by putting up the UNPRECEDENTED obstacle.

Manny was prepared to face him under business-as-usual protocols.


Had Floyd produced a single piece of evidence or information that would give the slightest reason for deviating from normal protocol, he might have a (very slim) case.

Since he didn't, his case is non-existent.

 

LOL! Dont make me owned you again. Be good to me now. hahahaha. So much insult when you get owned by a newbie. Lol!

 

After all the weak embarrasing excuses, and walking away from what potentially could have been the richest fight in boxing history.......people are still willing to believe Pac's not juicing?????

Wow, blinders work on humans as good or better than they do on animals.

 

Isn't that Manny's next prospective Top Rank opponent? :yep

You guys are still drinking the Kool-aid not seeing the truth. :roll:

 

Hey man there is no reason to doubt Pac!

I mean after that whole incident of FMJ "ducking" him by knowing in advance that he would waffle out of drug testing he went and fought the guy who lost to the guy he just beat and is in the same promotional camp. Then his promoter went out on a limb to say that his next matchup will be against another Top Rank fighter that has been on a suspension for loaded gloves.

He is taking chances left and right! What did Mayweather do? We see what is up. Manny took the high road and is smelling like roses!

:yep

 

I used to brand pac as a pacroid before and i apologize for that cuz i was disappointed and pissed that he didn't accept floyd's demands for a clean fight plus some *******s are ****ing annoying, but I'm not the type to just brand people cheater cuz i know boxing and know whats its like. Its the hardest sport in the world and its not easy getting to the top.

Yes pac is suspicious but until then he's clean and we don't have the right to brand him a cheater, i hate cheaters and some people here who remembers me knows that especially my hatred with margo and his fans defending his **** even though he was "already caught". Like i said i know the sport and i know how hard it is so i respect people who train hard and dedicate themselves to the sport like floyd,hopkins,pac etc.

My belief for now is he don't want no part of floyd, and probably see all this testing gig as a way out for the fight. Some people here might disagree with me but thats how i see it, better to make yourself look suspicious than make yourself look like a coward by backing out.

And lastly pac is clean even if he takes the test because the random test would only "prevent" him from cheating, because no cheater in their right mind would cheat with the form of testing floyd wants. Whoever keeps saying pac should have took the test to prove his innocence is not thinking clearly, because he would simply not take steroids but you can't know whether or not he took them in his fights before and we may never know imo.

 

WTF! :huh

You're incoherent and even contradicting yourself.

 

I wouldn't say so. But then anything is possible with pro athletes and the best way to remove all doubt is to have random testing. That should happen.

 

WOW Freddy, I have probably never agreed with you in any post but this one is IT... good one!:good

 

are you referring to my 1st and last sentence? Surely he could take the test to fight floyd and that makes him clean for the fight, but that doesn't mean the suspicions of his last fights would be erase especially if he loses to floyd cuz there would be a big difference on how he would look against floyd and how he looked against cotto so he not only needs to accept the fight but he need look the same beast we saw in his fight with cotto as well. If he looks bad and performs bad against floyd then people would just say this is what a clean pac looks like

 

there wouldn't be no credible evidence if he took the random drug testing because he could just simply not juiceatsch

the random testing only prevents someone from juicing, you can't expect for someone to get caught in random testing unless that someone is stupid

 

This is the reason Manny sued. You just put him in a no win situation.

And the credible evidence to back up the claims that he should take the test, is the test? atsch :rofl

 

Same thing with urine testing right?

 

and who's fault it is? it was a clever mind game move by floyd but pac and his team make it worst with the inconsistency, they could have said from the start that they should let the commission handle it but the way they acted and handled themselves make them look suspicious, but like i said i believe the main purpose is they were wrong for taking this fight and especially arum as he knows a potential loss to pac when he sees one and better make it look that way rather than pac ducking floyd.

and no i don't think there would be credible evidence, just like how we wouldn't know if margo cheated before the mosley fight, but we have every right to assume that he did as he was "caught"