Now that Tyson Fury has lost his 0 will he become a better fighter?

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  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a clear win for Usyk idk how anyone can give it to Fury most you can give him is 6 rounds which would be a loss because of the knockdown
     
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  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Which 7 rounds can you justify Fury winning please enlighten me
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying he won. I'm pointing out that a split decision is a disputed one. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

    For the record I scored it 114-113 Usyk.
     
  4. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A disputed decision is one where there's dispute about who won there's no dispute here Usyk clearly won.
     
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  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you know what a SPLIT decision is?
     
  6. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Judges can be stupid, corrupt or make bad calls doesn't mean anything when no one actually disputes the results of the fight. One of the judges also scored the second Joshua fight for Joshua doesn't mean anyone in their right minds thinks Joshua actually won it therefore its not a disputed decision.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stop playing mental gymnastics just because you're Fury supporter. Most boxing fans with any common sense knows Usyk won clearly. As I said it's a very "small minority" that think its disputed and most of those opinions are from deluded Fury fans.
     
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  8. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    TBH if Fury took that fight seriously AJ would never had. It was only becuase Fury made such a balls up of it that it gave AJ a easy money fight.
     
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  9. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Completely agree with the argument that the Ngannou v Fury \ AJ fights should not have happened. I hold Fury largely responsible. He is the one who opened the door to these gimmick fights while claiming, let's remember, he was the best heavyweight ever and 'no one wanted to fight him.' The problem began when he legitimized the Ngannou fight by first taking it and talking it up, and then performing very poorly. While I don't agree with AJ taking on the same opponent, he was NOT a world champion (and therefore not held, in theory, to as higher standard). And he was following the door which Fury left open. In fairness to Joshua, a lot of people (not me) were claiming Ngannou was a legit top 10 threat at that time...
    It is Fury who created the mess and walked away. At least AJ put an end to it.
     
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  10. Metrics

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    Of course, the Ngannou fight took a lot of shine off the Fury-Usyk fight. About everyone in media and on internet accepted that at the time, less than 8 months ago. It was strongly noted. Calls for Fury to hide away forever, retire - from all quarters. I notice that there are now a lot of people trying to re-write history to make the Fury-Usyk fight (series? trilogy?) more significant. A discredited, washed-up Fury ... and a 37 year old Usyk.
     
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  11. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is p4p and hw goat, yet he got his face busted by a bum who struggled with an mma guy making his debut

    This forum has usyk over Ray Robinson and Duran
     
  12. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    You can already consider he has 2 defeats. Usyk will totally dismantle him on December.
     
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  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Steroids does wonders, and only a guy who never train in his life won't know this. But you know that, do you, as if i recall correctly you are a training guy.

    The first thing is the recovery, which with steroids is million times better. The second is losing weight, gaining muscle mass, which helps in all aspect of an athlete performance. Depends on the stuffs, definitely more energy, definitely more strength, which also could translate to power.
    Also depends on the stuff, they helping with the focus, training harder, better reaction time, better reflexes based on that as well. But of course everything comes through training, which is the thing steroids help with the most, aka million times better recovery, and you been able to train more frequently and recover better, and not feel sore after a hard training session, which is what going to help you improve a lot more and in a lot shorter time span.

    A complete different ball game when it comes to steroids athlete versus clean athlete. A whole different game.

    Let's not forget Fury not only popped dirty, but he also rejected a PED test, which in every single sport is equal to a fail test and suspension for it as well.
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I won't even call it 10% that think Fury won, more like less than 1%.
    In reality most people on a rewatch, without the obvious biased to Fury commentators, having the fight 8-4, 9-3. And especially this forum.

    Fury fanboys grasping at AJ, and crying a river, because AJ smashed the guy who gave Fury a competitive fight, and he has done it straight away with Ngannou, and beat a better version of Wallin with ease.
    Fury should have UD loss to Ngannou and TKO loss to Wallin as well.

    And AJ fans don't care about fantasy matchups, like Fury ones. I have never seen more mentally fragile and scared fans as Fury's one.
    They know that AJ is going to demolish Fury, and they will pull all mental gymnastics to make reasons for Fury to not fight AJ, or to bring AJ down.

    At the very least AJ apologies to Usyk, and neither AJ or anyone from his team goes on a rant how AJ won the fight, and was screwed, even though he get similar scorecards to Usyk - Fury and didn't suffer a KD as well.
     
  15. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Usyk is about to fight twice in a calendar year since 2018. Given his long camp for Fury, I think we will see that sharpest Usyk in years. Add to that the experience in the first Fury fight and we might get a dominant victory for Usyk this time. One that even the judges can“t mess up(SD my ass).
     
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