Now that Tyson Fury has lost his 0 will he become a better fighter?

Who is the hater now, h ?
You were the one saying that Ngannou going to smash AJ to pieces and KO him.
How can you claim this before the fight, and after the fight claiming Ngannou was nothing ?
Should i even mention that most of you had Wallin winning against AJ, or most of you have mention that he will outbox AJ easily, and AJ will get a gift decision, lol.

Should i even mention that by the time AJ fought 4 guys in Franklin, Helenius, Wallin(top 10 every single Boxing Ranking, including Ring, and number 2 by the IBF), and Ngannou, Fury had just 1 fight in that timestamp, and that was Ngannou, and everyone knows he lost that fight as well.

 

This was what i was thinking too.
People forget with all the Fury delaying tactics, this fight was supposed to happen in December if i'm not wrong, and then pushed to February, and then to May, which firstly make Usyk inactive once again for 9 months, and once again because of Fury. And second it forces Usyk to cancel his camps and restart 2 times in a row. Let's not forget Usyk was already peaked and has done his camp for the February fight, when Fury postponned the fight.

And trying to deload from a hard camp, and then re-peak in 3 months time is extremely hard, even for a PRO athlete, and overtraining is a real killer.
I was thinking this for quite some time, but wanted the fight to plays out, to point that out again.

 

Some of them are sure Fury is a useless dosser but want us to believe Usyk is great for winning against Fury?? What is the sense in that?

I'm fairly sure Fury is done, finished. He was over-rated by many 'at his best', and he has an average resume. He has rarely looked really special, and has not looked anything special since that 2nd Wilder fight, 4 1/2 years ago. Ngannou exposed his level as of October 2023. Fury got himself in better condition for Usyk but still is not much above that level. Usyk beating Fury does not make him an ATG heavyweight champion. I don't care what the Saudi guy, Frank Warren, Alex Krassyuk, and the media want to tell us. I saw with my own eyes. A 0-0 semi-retired UFC fighter - it totally destroyed Fury's credibility .

 

I never bought into the whole "peaking" concept. Sure, you one can get into optimal and overtraining is a thing, but that shouldn´t be an issue to any seasoned athlete.
Just take a step back and readjust the training schedule. If anything, it´s good to reach peak form and then to relax a bit, letting your body adjust before trying to reach new highs again.

Anyone who overtrains has only themselves to blame. But I can see how a long camp can be mentally fatiguing, which can result to a poor performance. Usyk pretty much stated that his was a big issue for him leading up to the fight, that he had been in camp for so long. One can only maintain such intensity for so long.

 

From a guy that overrated Fury massively, I got to hold my hands up and agree with you

The usyk win is nothing special, he's just a very good fighter in a terrible era

 

It's hard, not just mentally, but for your body too. As at this advance age recovery is an issue, and while we as regular martial artist we don't need to peak specifically for a fight date, pro athlete are doing it, and time their training according to it. And having to re-peak, due to fight being postponed and delayed in a short span is a big problem.

Now with everyone is different, as everyone have different need and training regime, but here is a simple example why it's hard, and how postponed can mess you up:

This is a 14-16(depends) week camp from Don Heatrick i was following.
Your first 2-4 weeks are transition and you have a training focus on Mobility & Movement. Then your essential Fight Camp:
You essentially have 3 Blocks x 4 weeks of:
Functional Strength Training, when the focus is on the Strength aspect, and you are essentially maintaining the power/speed part.
Explosive Power Training Block, with the focus obviously is on the Explosiveness here
Maximum Speed Training Block, which follows the same patterns as the above.
And every week is different into the training, with low, medium, high and Deload ones.

You can also focus on specific things as well, so Peaking and re-Peaking it's not so easy to achieve.

Also regular training from in-camp training is completely differently.
Usyk in-camp trains 3x. times per day. You know how hard is that to your body? And you have to peak for a specific date, and to be as fresh, as fast, as strong on that given day.

And usually after a fight, and a camp you would have 1-2 months off hard training.
How can you do that from February to May, when you have exactly 3 months.

 

Fury was very good on a few occassions. He deserved his fanbase because he won two or three big fights where he was an underdog - and he showed a fair amount of skills and heart. But he was not consistent, rarely was tested - and he wasted too many years inactive. The last 2 1/2 years have been disappointing. The Ngannou fight underlined a decline that was already suspected. I suspect Usyk is rapidly declining too. But if him and Fury are only going to fight each other, people will be able to continue to pretend the two of them are levels above the rest.

 

I'm not saying that judge is right, but you two are the ones claiming the fight is undisputed based on your opinion only. It has zero weight next to the judge who actually scored the fight.

Usyk for me clearly won the fight, but as the fight was ruled a split decision it's officially disputed. Simple as that.

 

As usual you quote a post and completely dance around the point. AJ is mentally compromised since Ruiz, that's why he's fighting people like Ngannou in the first place.

I also predicted that AJ would beat Wallin. Had money on it too, though I thought it would be around the 8-9th.

 

Yeah there was a time where i could have take you seriously, but that time is long gone.
Mentally compromised, muhahhahah.
If he was mentally damaged, he would have lost the rematch against Ruiz, isn't he smarty?
I wonder how good AJ was back then, if he is "mentally damaged" now, as he KTFO in just 2 rounds the guy that beat your Hero goes full distance and was robbed. Same with Wallin.
Funny as i don't remember AJ falling from one rope to another against Usyk as well. And hell he fought a decent version of Usyk, not a post shot to ***** declined 37,5 years old Usyk, and getting smacked around the ring. And curious how could have AJ been mentally damage, scared, and all the nonsenses you are trying to make him been, when he throws 640+ punches against Usyk ? If he is so scared, he will be hesitant to throw, isn't he? Maybe someone is mentally damaged, hm ?
You are acting as a typical fanboy. When your prediction gone wrong about a fighter you hate, then you start discredit his wins.

And again, in case you miss it, the only reason AJ fought Ngannou was of Fury.
A guy you like, because he is bestie with the guy you are fan of, just lol.
And we are hating AJ with a passion, as he smashed our guy.

 

Had he lost his 0 earlier he probably would have but at this stage he’s physically declined and near the end anyway

 

I'm not talking solely about my opinion I'm stating my opinion that Usyk clearly won is the popular opinion amongst the majority of boxing fans which is it. The opinion does have weight when the vast majority agree that Usyk clearly won.

Again you're doing the mental gymnastics stop it so what if 1 judge scored it incorrectly ? It doesn't mean realistically it's a disputed decision which it isn't. That's like saying Mayweather vs Canelo is a disputed decision because one judge scored it a draw.

I think any boxing fan who has any common sense isn't going to be a sheep and just accept corrupt scoring because it's the "official scorecard".

 

This. Boxing has had prior examples of good fighters who lost and then went back to the drawing board, identified areas of weakness and transformed themselves from good to great. I think of Marco Antonio Barrera as an obvious example. The problem is that at 35 the ship has kind of already sailed. A fighter pretty much is what he is at that point.

 

It doesn't matter one way or the other.

The two heirs to Klitschko were Joshua and Fury, who both defeated Wlad and split the division between them. By beating Fury and Joshua, Usyk has proven that he is the best heavyweight to have fought since at least 2015.

 

I am writing hypothetically; theoretically.
Fury has until December to prepare physically and mentally. And he has one advantage over the first fight - now he knows what he's up against.
I doubt we'll be watching Fury's peak now.
I definitely think losing "Zero" to Fury will either make him a better or worse boxer.
But losing the "one" would IMHO be the end of Fury.