Now that we know Dirrell is the goods

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VanillaKilla, Mar 30, 2010.


  1. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does carl froch get underrated on here???

    An argument can be made that Froch did better against Dirrell than the heavily hyped Abraham

    I actually thought Carl had no amatuer experience, I was shocked to learn he was a world amatuer bronze medalist :scaredas:

    After watching some of his fights against lesser comp, I can tell he is definitly skilled...

    THe problem is his hand and foot speed..... He is fast, but not fast enough to handle world class speed.....

    I think the reason he looked like a bumbling idiot vs dirrell is his lack of speed and footwork.... He got frustrated and did w/e he could....

    I think Froch gets underrated a bit here.....

    He is not a great fighter, but i think he is good

    Hes has good power, chin, will to win, skills....... Its just that his speed is not there

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    of course Froch is good. He is trying to make the step up to be great and that is what the Super 6 is all about.
     
  3. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i still dont think dirrell is the goods, he just had a style that makes it hard for people like froch and abraham.
     
  4. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dirrell has good speed, skill, and a great chin... I think hes the goods
     
  5. Laudrup

    Laudrup Active Member Full Member

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    Froch is a tough mother****er with a good punch, a good chin and elite self-belief :)

    But he is slow as a lazy donkey and he has almost no defence.

    Kessler will most likely beat the living **** out of him if Kessler hasnt completely lost it.


    Dirrell on the other hand is skilled like no other. Ward relies way to much on dirty tricks and to be rough on the inside. Dirrel has a very pretty style, is fast, picture perfect footwork and some pop.

    He is the most talented fighter at 168 imho.

    And I do think that Froch got a gift against Dirrell. That was sick. Froch hit nothing but air and occassionally Andre's back in that fight. Crazy ****.
     
  6. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    He was dirty before the Dirrell fight look at Pascal/Froch but the man has the heart to fight even when things aren't going his way and you have to strip his "0" from him to beat him. Everyone says he's a ko waiting to happen but no one has ko'd him yet.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I'm not 100% sold on Dirrell. I am, however, about 90% sold. I do not think people under rate Froch that much. I think it is more a matter of Dirrell learning, and growing by leaps and bounds.
     
  8. David UK

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    Not one single boxing journalist who watched the fight live thought Dirrell won the fight
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C AHHH HA

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    Froch is underrated here. Like someone else said he could win the super 6 and people would still say he was the 4th or 5th best fighter at 168.
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not completely sold on Dirrell. To me he's the 168 Zab Judah. Lots of speed and talent, but mentally he's not the toughest guy in the world. I always knew he had the style to beat AA though.

    As for Froch... he's definitely a world class fighter. He proved as much in the Taylor fight. I thought he lost to Dirrell though. How he handles Kessler will be interesting. Too many ppl are writing off Kessler too fast.
     
  11. David UK

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    Yes, Froch is definately underrated on here, mainly because he does not have silky smooth skills. Posters who are not especially knowledgable about the sport overlook his assets(hard puncher/good chin combo which is rare at the top level,toughness,desire and elite self belief) and focus on his undeniable weaknesses and wonder why a guy who doesn't fight like Sugar Ray Leonard keeps on winning
     
  12. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    True. Yes they would
     
  13. Laudrup

    Laudrup Active Member Full Member

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    That is amazing. Simply put.

    But I guess they where carried away by the intense atmosphere at the arena.

    I mean - when you score a fight you must look at punches landed and not so much on aggression alone. Froch won that fight solely because it was in Nottingham.
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How the hell is Froch UNDERRATED on here? Like half the forum is picking him to beat Kessler, and the majority were picking him in Pavlik vs Froch thread I made! Plus he has the most delusional groupies of any fighter on this forum not named David Haye, and Paul Williams. If anything he's OVERRATED on here.
     
  15. Laudrup

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    Look - I do think that Froch is top 5 at 168. But he is no where near the best. It became clear to me in the Dirrell fight how limited he really is.

    But one fight impress me though - and thats the Pascal fight, where he looked good and used his physical skills to perfection.