Now the dust has settled- AJ needs to sack bum trainer McCracken. Poor tactics vs short fighters>>

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  1. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    A boxing fan with an opinion
     
  2. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure you read my post. I have highlighted that McCracken gave contradictory advice
     
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  3. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    McCracken was asking for body shots and short punches (hooks and uppers). That is terrible advice vs an inside fighter
     
  4. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not a simple fight but agree with your tactics.

    When you have the reach and height advantage, keep it long. Ask the smaller guy to take risks to land his shots. Ruiz is good enough to do that but the advantage is with the taller rangier boxer.
     
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  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I've said before, RM is a great offensive coach who wants fighters to pressure from in or close to punching range. I'd seen a clip of Froch sparring for the Groves rematch and RM was constantly urging him to 'go again' after he had exchanged. That's fine when you have a great chin like Froch but a disaster waiting to happen when you have shaky whiskers like AJ.

    Well, Joshua did 'go again' after flooring Ruiz but his eyes were clear and he was steady on his legs so in retrospect it would have been better to have taken a 10/8 round and got back behind the jab until Ruiz was ready to go later in the fight. Problem is, AJ hasn't been taught to fight off the back foot and deal with someone coming at him like Ruiz and to a large extent that's a failing of RM's training. Six years he's had to add layers to AJ's game and it's not happened.

    That said, the punch which really led to AJ's demise wasn't the left hook to the top of the head from Ruiz but the right hand that Wilder detonated on the jaw of DB. Joshua, I suspect, wanted to match him on his US debut and climbed into an opponent he didn't seem to respect.
     
  6. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    This is how it is..Joshua is on his own, people looking for scapegoats for their hero
     
  7. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    Read my post. McCracken advised AJ the complete opposite of what he should have done. He was asking for body shots and short punches. And I am no fan of AJ - again, read my post and you will see that I have been predicting his downfall
     
  8. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    Joshua wasn't capable of doing anything, tbh he looked scared
     
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  9. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    All he had to do was emulate Wlads style. But RM was telling him to go up and down and use hooks and uppercuts, shocking advice.

    I remember when wlad used solely a jab, and one-two for like 10 years running. Then finally he used a hook against someone and everyone partied. Not saying its good for boxing but when you are packing china and are fighting an inside fighter, you should play it safe.
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Cracken told him to keep his guard up and keep it long wit the 1-2. It was sound advise.

    Nobody could have helped Joshua that night by the looks of him. He can do better in the rematch if he puts it all together.
     
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  11. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    Mate, he told him to keep it long, long jab to the body etc, it doesn't matter anyway, no one could've helped him, he couldn't recuperate, something ive seen before with him when tagged hard(Whyte). It took him a couple of rounds before he got his legs back !
     
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  12. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    He did tell him to keep it long. But he also asked for up and down jab. I. E. Contradictory advice. Why they hell would you jab to the body against someone so much shorter than you, with fast hands, and keep your lead hand on your hip when you have China.
     
  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Carrying all of that excess muscle is too much for his frame. He also needs to start doing real roadwork (4-6 miles straight) and not run intervals, which is good for basketball, but absolutely useless for boxing.
     
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  14. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    The bodybuilder was too out of it, before he got into the ring to carry out simple instructions. Every member of the bomb squad beat him senseless in sparring matches in his gym. Lol.
     
  15. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even against Takam, who is in his late 30s, Joshua needed a British Stoppage and had an empty gas tank in the 10nth.
     
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