NOW... the question we have to consider next... P4P?

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  1. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pavlik was P4P #6-7. Hopkins was P4P #10 or so.

    Imo. Hopkins is now P4P around #4.

    Discuss.
     
    TheH1tMan, Oct 19, 2008
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  2. Dapidran

    Dapidran Pac4Pound Full Member

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    He lost to no. 3 so he's no.4...
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I have him 4.
     
    Pimp C, Oct 19, 2008
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  4. dits

    dits Active Member Full Member

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    With that impressively dominant win over a fellow p4per, a solid number 4.
     
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  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    No he wasn't. If Pavlik proved anything, he proved that.
     
    Cobbler, Oct 19, 2008
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  6. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Yes he was. Other than JMM, Calzaghe, and Pacquiao there was not a fighter in the game that was a clear cut over the past 3 years than Pavlik.
     
    Fedor Em, Oct 19, 2008
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  7. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Considering he only lost to Calzaghe by about 1-3 points and he dominated Pavlik. I would have him at 4-5. Definately ahead of Margarito, Cotto, Calderon, Mijares, and Rafa Marquez. Behind Pacquiao, JMM, Calzaghe, and it is close with Izzy.
     
    Fedor Em, Oct 19, 2008
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  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    It's clear that he has been flattered by his results. Miranda is ludicrously overrated, for reasons that have always escaped. Taylor was rated solely on his wins over Hopkins, which were a style thing, as were Pavlik's wins over Taylor.

    Last night was always going to show Pavlik's true level. I did not see a top ten P4P fighter in him.
     
    Cobbler, Oct 19, 2008
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  9. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    With the way elite fighters have been performing lately, and with the retirement of Mayweather. He was top 10 based on that. I still have him ahead of overrated Margarito.
     
    Fedor Em, Oct 19, 2008
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  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I wouldn't argue with him being ahead of Margarito. Somewhere between 18 and 23 maybe.
     
    Cobbler, Oct 19, 2008
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  11. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why was this fight and that fight a "style thing" and the fight that you point to was "pavlik's true level'?

    Hopkins said that he won because 'Styles make fights'. So now we have your word against Bernard's. Was this Pavlik's 'true level' As you say, or was it a stlyes thing (as Bernard says) and the Taylor, Miranda etc. fights Pavlik's true level?

    You are Bernard - who do we belive?:huh
     
    TheH1tMan, Oct 19, 2008
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  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    NOPE, he was P4P #4 BEFORE this fight. BULL****.
     
    san rafael, Oct 19, 2008
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  13. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    number 3
     
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  14. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    didnt have him in my top 10 before the fight but now

    i have him at 5
     
    Boom_Boom, Oct 19, 2008
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  15. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's no lower than #5 now, Pavlik drops way out of the top 10.
     
    ishy, Oct 19, 2008
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