Now who wins prime Calzaghe or prime Ward?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rorschach51, Jul 5, 2017.


Who wins?

Poll closed Jul 19, 2017.
  1. Prime Calzaghe

    114 vote(s)
    59.7%
  2. Prime Ward

    65 vote(s)
    34.0%
  3. Draw

    7 vote(s)
    3.7%
  4. Just wish Ward would go away

    5 vote(s)
    2.6%
  1. Andy_Kaufman

    Andy_Kaufman Member banned Full Member

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    So you say Hopkins marginally lost to a world class fighter and then claim Joe only took him on because he had nothing left? Makes you look a bit dumb.
     
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  2. Outstock

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    Timing beats speed , everybody who understands boxing knows that. Plus he compensated good punching technique for high volume slaps which often left him wide open down the middle. He had a major weakness to straight right hands throughout all his career.

    Even British level Woodhall who was at the end of his career was lighting him up with right hands. He couldn't miss and it was echoed by the commentary team who were staggered at how easily Woodhall handed the straight right hand.
    Kovalev is far from basic , his timing , power and distance control is some of the best in the sport. He is a master of controlling the range and is a nightmare to get close to.

    Somebody who is susceptible to right hands like Calzaghe is at major risk of getting destroyed by Kovalev.
    Well timed power shots will neutralise high volume as you saw when he fought Cleverly.
    Subtle foot movement and good timing made Clevery ineffective and that guy went on to break the record of punches thrown in a light heavy weight fight.
    You simply can't rely just on volume alone to succeed at elite level . Ward took Kovlaevs best assets out of the game with athletic educated footwork and out -worked him on the inside.
    With no fear of Joe's power Ward would out -muscle and out -brawl him on the inside like he did with Kessler ,Green and Froch. Or Ward would land the better quality work from the outside since his defence and upper body movement his far superior to Joe who often fought square on with little to no defence.
     
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  3. WhataRock

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    Would that right hand Ward landed on Kov in the 8th knock out Joe cold or just knock him down for the 10 count and he leaves the ring under his own power?
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Odour thinks -"I havent given this guy a reply 4 times in a row now..shyt..drastic action needed to try and save face"
    Odin writes - "BUT BUT BUT ..... YOU ARE A TROLL!"

    awesome comedy mate, thanks.
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    the wbo state it on their own wiki. The very people you are trying to defend, destroy your argument. Could you have been anymore wrong than you are? The only exception was the WBA beginning to rate WBO as early as 2001, with WBC accepting them in 2004 and the IBF in 2007.

    This is all on that wiki page. Nearly everyone here knows this, and you do too, so the time to drop your pretence passed a long time ago.

    BUT apologies if you arent pretending and just genuinely didnt know because of your adolescent age. If you werent pretending then at least could you manage ONE google search before you decided to mount a failed argument? remember this in future. u r a good boy.
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    difference between fair bit and none is the only thing dumb here. And its you making it. Please dont, I respect Kaufman too much for that.
     
  7. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Still no evidence I see.
     
  8. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Who am I defending?
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    ah the old Odour switch-of-goalposts-entirely move is imminent.

    U should have kept it in, mate.
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    it was written in front of you. So, wifi working well today at the Royal National Institute for the Blind.
     
  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Since when did Wikipedia become a reliable source?

    I've flicked through it and I'm not seeing anything but you've flipped and flopped through thus thread as usual your brain can't seem to cope.
     
  12. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Only one person changing and that's you as usual, who am I defending?

    Just accept Calzaghe as one of the greatest at 168, once you accept it you can learn to live instead of stalking threads with him in.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so...the citations to supporting documents on that page mean nothing to you.

    ok, if thats nothing to you, thats fine. They are ok to everyone else.

    For Odours next trick he will be claiming - since when did the INTERNET become a reliable source? ay? ahhh see....

    if you've not, as you claim, seen the arguments I gave you straight from the page, theres no point in this going any further. noone can make you read it but you.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    dont pretend you arent arguing about the wbo.

    it would be beneath you, and you would lose the respect of people following this thread.
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    i already do believe hes one of the best. Again, you've failed.