Now who wins prime Calzaghe or prime Ward?

Thats a load of nonsense.

He fought a guy in Ward who was levels above anybody he previously beat. Thats what the problem was.

Are you saying the Calzaghe version would have done better?

Thats like saying Brook before GGG would have done better against Spence. Brook would always get beaten by Spence. And probably worse by a more experienced Spence.

Kessler's traditional Euro style would never be competitive against Wards complete American boxing style . You witnessed that with your own two eyes when they fought.

 

Im my own judge .

 

That not the point Wards headbuttstyle and insidefighting skills are always wrong for Kessler but yes the Kessler version from the Calzaghe fight with a neutral referee would have done a lot better

 

No longer cutting it at world level because he lost against a world class opponent, in your own words? So was he not at world level when he lost to Jones?

 

Yes, 2 scores of 115-113 - that's only a round either way's difference. And to me Froch, who I loved by the way, was a limted fighter in terms of skill - not something you can say of super Joe.

 

Ward lost the first fight against Kovalev. Even his own crowd booed him.

Second fight was close.

Calzaghe will be too busy and outwork Andre Ward.

 

If Ward is so many levels above the fighters he fights, why does he have to use his head as a battering ram? I just watched the Ward/Kessler fight and he is clearly lunging in like a goat. Fight was stopped based on two head-butts.

 

So you admit that u r failey, that explains it all.

no more need for replies thx.

 

not in my own words at all. IN YOUR OWN WORDS ONLY. Again, what you write destorys yourself, becasuer it is you who wrote jones is merely world class.

NO jones was elite atg, not merely world class, and you know it. dont try and be clever. YOUR FAILINGS are YOUR OWN, dont pass them off as someone elses.

 

Worst comeback ever to try and defelct from worst post ever "hoohoohhooo giggle why? heeehee u post shyte"

how pathetic.

 

How many head butts did you count?

 

Noticed how you skipped to tell me why.

 

you notice how I skipped to tell you why Ward NOT DOING ANYTHING AT LHW "until after Rodriquez" is COMPLETE HOGWASH as a criticism?

yeh mate. try working out why. I'll give u one chance. Though my advice is NEVER attempt to support that statement again in your life if you dont want to look a fool in front of the entire forum.

 

Why after winning the super 6 did he not move straight up instead of wasting his time on Rodriguez?

Why has he been at 175 for 2 years and only fought 2 light Heavies? The other 2 was a crap middleweight and a midget super middleweight!

That's what I said, pretty self explanatory.

 

OMG you just repeated your cringeworthy argument.

Have you no self respect? Are you intentionally trying to kill off your ID?

Or perhaps you are serious.... you think Ward taking two prime elite fights in 2 years at LHW is worse than Joe waiting for 2 LHW fights in 2 years with old 40somethings. IF so, you are fcuked beyond saving.