Now You Guys Understand That Even 1 Second Is A Lot Of Time When A Fighter Is Hurt !!

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    i'm telling ya'll exactly how it happened....

    right hand landed right at 17
    by 16 he was on his ass
    meaning that if he was ready to go (by the rules) he should've been ready after the 8 count...so that would've been at 8sec, steel gave him the benefit of the doubt and gave him a few extra seconds and meldrick still stayed quiet....steele started waiving the fight off at 6-5 seconds....

    please dont try to hell me how it happened..that fight plays in the back of my head all the time......not to mention it was the first fight i ever watched......:deal
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    if only everyone else agreed. as true a summation of taylor-chavez as their has ever been. kudos
     
  3. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought at the time it was a horrible stoppage. But your right, in the aftermath. Seeing Taylor`s face, or how much long term damaged he suffers from. Taking one more bomb from Chavez would have been disastrous
     
  4. carias

    carias Active Member Full Member

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    Different situations. Meldrick got knocked down with like 15 seconds left and was up and had beaten the count when the fight was called with 2 seconds left. Mayorga went down at 2:59 and wasn't even given a chance to get up. He wasn't going to get hit again.
     
  5. carias

    carias Active Member Full Member

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    I agree 100% I heard the bell ring before the ref waved it off as well.
     
  6. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STARTED WATCHING BOXING IN 2000:good

    WITHOUT YOUTUBE, YOU'D BE CLUELESS....WELL YOU STILL ARE, BUT STILL...
     
  7. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excuse me folks, am i the only person here who is of the thinking that...

    The round is 3.00 minutes long.. It ends at 3.00 seconds (180) seconds..

    Not 2.55 or 2.57.. The round ends at 3.00

    As a referee you should be impartial and time is not your judgement, If a man decides that he is capable of continuing as if it were 1 minute left or 1 second left , the referees job is to stop the fight if he thinks the man could get hurt..... Mister Steele made a judgement on Taylor that night that he honestly saw as in the best interests of Meldrick.. He knew the end was near but didn't have a clock in his face saying (2 seconds mister Steele) he knew it was in the region of 5 maybe 6 seconds left and made a call judged on hiw Taylor responded to his questions.. Taylor in truth "Could not fight another punch on competetive action safely" Steele wasn't going to take that risk........ Like he said (We are in Nevada, we are in the boxing business, we are not in the killing business, we don't want to see anyone killed , we don't want to see anybody seriously hurt..)

    The Razor Ruddock stoppage was a bit different.. When Ruddock bounced off the ropes after Tyson banged his head around like a rag doll he looked back at Steele after a 2 second break in the action, but he was able to maintain his composure for that few seconds to say "Whattt" as if , i am ok , let me continue, but in the passion of that combination Mike caught him with , he was in serious trouble and without Richard stopping the action , would Ruddock have had the luxury to have been able to stand there upright with his faculties straight and say "I am ok..?" Refereeing is a tough game, If you stop a fight 1 second too soon , you run the risk of someone saying you cost a man his title.. Or in the opposite notion you run the risk of stopping a fight 1 second too late and risk a man losing his life.. Which price is greater..

    What price life in comparrison to victory..

    Ask men like Leavander Johnson, Bradley Stone, Johnny Owen..

    Oh sorry we can't , they are unfortunately not here.....
     
  8. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    exactly....

    and the ****en stupid ass writers that claim the "loss" had an effect on his mental are ****en stupid....it was the beaten he took, not the depression
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    The beating may have taken a toll on Taylor...But in that fight Taylor was straight up robbed!!......... Robbed dam it !


    For all those dangerous seconds Richard Steel saved Taylor from, no one would have known for a fact that Chavez would of finished him with the amount of time left ?


    Here is a Hypothetical what if Taylor decided to clinch after he would of been allowed to continue ? No one that’s bias would ever consider such a possibility...For all my love for Chavez that decision was made to keep his record intact nothing less ..It’s funny how everyone becomes a fight doctor after the fact.

    That’s was down right criminal...Just as the beating Chavez gave him the decision to stop it at that particular time was criminal.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont have the fight on video, but for someone who does, how much time was left on the clock when the ref waived the fight to continue after Mayorga was knocked down by Mosely for the first time?

    ......The argument for those that have felt that Steele robbed Taylor, has been that there was'nt enough time on the clock for Chavez to have run across the ring and laid a glove on Taylor.

    ......Mosely running across the ring to land that devestating hook on Mayorga is proof that you only need a couple of seconds to go across the ring and land devestation.

    ......in Mayorga, we're talking about a fighter who clearly got up and showed the ref he could and wanted to continue, yet he was in bad enough shape that he could'nt guage Mosely coming at him and got nailed with that left hook on the button.

    Its scary to think what could have happened with a fighter in Meldrick Taylor's condition, who showed no indication he could continue......for Chavez to have run across the ring like Mosely did to Mayorga, and landed on a clueless Taylor.......
    ......In all honesty, I say there was a good chance Chavez would have landed that punch and if Mayorga who was alert and coherent dropped like a ton of bricks, its frightening to even think what a shot like that could have done to Meldrick Taylor.

    Everybody in this forum should tip their hat and thank Richard Steele, we never got the chance to find out if Chavez could land that final shot, because sure as hell Mosely ran across the ring in what I believe with less seconds on the clock remaining than what Chavez had with Taylor, and landed that shot on a coherent Mayorga!

    God Bless you Richard Steele!!!
     
  11. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It does not matter if there is 15 seconds or 1 second. 2:59 is still within the 3 minute round and nothing changes.

    Even if it was after the bell the Ref can stop the fight because you cannot be saved by the bell in ANY round.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Steele stopped the fight with 2 seconds left.


    On top of that, refs count dont go exactly with seconds. The ref can take 20 seconds on a ten count. It's by his count.

    Also, the Steele would of needed to grab and check Meldricks arms/hands and then Chavez would of needed to walk across the ring.

    No time.
     
  13. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Referee Steele had done that with Meldricks so special victory in mind , rather than his safety, it would have made Steele biased , rather than an impartial mediator..... The stoppage was correct...

    Steele saw the danger (time is irrelevent) and made a great call.

    Unfortunately it was very close to the end but that had nothing to do with Richard, If he would have allowed it to go on knowing Meldrick was inable to defend himself in combat , just so he could grab victory that would have made him in favour of one fighter and not the other.. Meldrick was unconvincing in letting Steele know he was able to continue.. That is because he was out of it.......
     
  14. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great point Homay..
     
  15. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He did wave it off after the bell but still the guy KOed him,you can't take away the man's KO,Mayorga prolly wasn't gonna get up anyway