NSAC, Allowing Manny a clear pass to violate their rules?

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dont waist your time.......trying to talk sense to a ******* is worst than trying to reason with a complete drunk.......its not going to happen.:deal
     
  2. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    floyd, just get your ass beat with 8 ounce gloves like every other fighter pac has faced.

    8 ounce cleto reyes gloves.
     
  3. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    damn zooka owned yet again
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    What is the default glove size? Thank you, anything other than a 10 ounce is based upon request....:hi:

    Sorry kid but you just cant twist it around.... and asking this question
    What is the last welterweight title fight that was fought with 10 oz gloves???? I beleive Berto vs Collazo and probably Berto vs Ortiz as well:hi:

    Keep that racial **** comming to, thats a clear sign of defeat.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whether this is true or not is'nt really the point......

    The point thats been repeatedly made in this thread is that if the fight were to be fought in Nevada (which a fight of this magnitude will) Mayweather if he wanted to could force Pacquiao to wear 10oz gloves and the only thing Pacquiao could do was either accept of bow out of the fight.
    The rules in Nevada say that if the fighters cant agree on 8 or 10oz gloves, they must wear the 10oz gloves.

    Certainly everyone here knows that fighting with 10oz gloves would benefit Mayweather who is much the better boxer and has brittle hands.
    The ******* has long accused Mayweather of simply not wanting the Mayweather fight and why he made the demand for random drug testing.

    The rules of Nevada as they are now dont require Pacquiao to take any additional drug test, though the fighters could agree to it and Nevada would be fine with it.


    If Mayweather needed an excuse to not fight Pacquiao, he'd have never agreed to fight Pacquiao with 8oz gloves.
    ......Mayweather does'nt have an issue with wearing 8oz gloves, he's worn them before and its the reason why he would'nt have an issue with wearing them vs Pacquiao.

    ......but the point being is that if Mayweather wanted to ***** and have every nuance of the negotiations turn toward his favor....he'd have clutched onto the rule that Nevada rule states Welters wear 10oz gloves unless agreed upon by the fighting participants.


    The point being is tha at least from this Mayweather-Pac negotiation, unlike what Pacquiao has done to force fighters out of their comfort zone by demanding catchweights against fighters when he himself would not be at a disadvantage by fighting at the fair weight for both fighters (eg making Cotto come down 2 lbs when he was already having trouble making 147 lbs and now forcing Marquez to fight at 144 lbs and not the 140 lbs most everyone agrees is the fair weight, when by Pacquiao's own admission he himself can still make 135 lbs)......
    Pacquiao unlike Mayweather is manipulating every aspect of the negotiation to be in his favor, and when anyone request a seemingly fair request that would'nt put either fighter at a disadvantage, he simply dismisses it on the grounds of "I dont care if its fair, I simply want you to be at your weakest."





    Now I ask you.......whats to stop Mayweather by simply stating, "OK, lets forget about OSDT. All I'm asking now is for the contracts to be drawn up and everything conform to what the NSAC's rules stipulate.
    Whatever cant be agreed upon by the parties, the Nevada rules have the last say on the matter"
    (Is'nt this what Roach has repeatedly said about random drug tests? Lets abide by what the commission rules state on the matter.) Why would Roach say different on a glove size issue?

    I ask the *******s in this thread. Would Pacquiao sign the contract to fight Mayweather if Mayweather announced this?????
     
  6. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    You think I give a damn what you think? Seriously you follow backyard boxing feat Charlie Zelenoff..... clearly you have mental issues....
     
  7. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Divac.... The point of the thread was that the rules were being broken to accommodate Pac...

    Is this true Divac?
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was quickly established on the thread that fighters had the option to wear the 8oz if agreed upon.
    I dont believe anyone here is disputing that, so in that sense Pac is'nt breaking the rules, he's just manipulating them to suit his own interest, which is fine.
     
  9. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    zooka, and divac..

    go buy a room. losers.

    8 ounce f'n gloves. DEAL with it.
     
  10. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Same can be said about you floydtard!
     
  11. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is no manipulation.... It was written....

    Can you tell me the last welterweight championship that was fought with 10oz gloves when they had three option to use 8oz.
     
  12. PIPO23

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    yup!
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    They are being broken, since when is it okay to demand catchweights for title fights?
    Look at the glove issue, the rule is and it exist, there is a 10 ounce default glove for that weight, if neither camp agrees to the other gloves 8 ounce then the default size is used.

    However this **** is all in the contract from the get, the fighter has a right to request as long as both agree, but do you really think a guy like Mosley has a shot at suggesting lets say the default size?
    No he doesnt, cus if Mosley doesnt bend over and take it in the ass Pac will fight someone else, they use their status as leverage to bend these rules when it comes to fights, Much like DLH, Cotto and Margarito all were fought at catchweights, had there not been an agreement for the catch weights those fights would not have happend.

    Sure the other fighters agreed, why not thats a huge opportunity, But if your going to argue Floyd doesnt run the sport he doesnt write the rules, then what the **** is happening on Mannys side?:think

    He does change the rules its in the contracts lets see what happens if Manny should be presented with an offer from Floyd that states No additional OSTD, but we are going to fight under the rules of the NSAC....
    Manny will run from that, cus there would be nothing that would give him an advantage.... and to be honest its pretty sad when we can say somthing like that about a guy who is supposed to be the best in the world
     
  14. wuzupman

    wuzupman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nsac you can work around it and cheat, not USDA
     
  15. Concrete

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    Real talk!

    But Manny isn't the first and won't be the last to use his status to control the negotiation. Its all under the rules of boxing though, but I see what your saying about how hypocritical people are, and the double standards that are used.