NSAC, Allowing Manny a clear pass to violate their rules?

you must be joking, being the universally recognised champ is not as good as a crooked organisation LOL

Your pac hate has gone to your head

See that Povetkin v Mormeck for the world heavyweight championship is on soon, enjoy that :nut

 

Apparently, this 'hurts' too much for some.

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all these matters are subject to negotiations. there is a default rule regarding glove size and weights but no default rules on blood testing coz there is actually no blood test. they are all negotiated and would require the acceptance of both parties. for example, marquez wants to fight pacquiao at 142 while pacquiao's team wants it at 145. jmm refused and aske for 144 and pac agreed. now the case with floyd, pac has no problem deviating also to the default rule of drug testing by agreeing to unlimited urine testing and random blood test until a certain cut-off. floyd won't agree with it. so negotiations did not work-out and it's not hypocritical when pac actually is willing to deivert from the default drug testing procedures.

 

NSAC amended its own rules to lure Cotto-Margarito fight. 8 oz gloves therefore at 147 is allowed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3365846

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By Dan Rafael

The Nevada State Athletic Commission on Thursday amended its rule for glove size, putting Las Vegas into the hunt to land the much-anticipated July 26 bout between welterweight titleholder Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito.

Cotto and Margarito have always fought in 8-ounce gloves and prefer to continue fighting in them. But under a provisional rule that has been used for the past couple of years in Nevada, boxers who weighed more than the 135-pound lightweight limit had to wear 10-ounce gloves.

In virtually every other jurisdiction in the world, fighters wear 8-ounce gloves up to the 147-pound welterweight class with 10-ounce gloves being worn in fights over 147 pounds.

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Without the change, Arum said he would not consider Las Vegas for the fight. He has been talking to New York's Madison Square Garden and Atlantic City, N.J., about hosting the HBO PPV fight.

With the rule amended, there is a good chance the fight will take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Arum told ESPN.com.

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The glove rule can therefore be negotiated. No violation thefore by Pac. If it is good for Cotto-Margo, it should also be good for Pac.

 

I'm surprised there is no reaction to my post about NSAC amending its rules in Cotto Margarito.

 

There are some who for various reasons refuse to recognize Pacquiao’s claim to the Featherweight crown, some out of ignorance, many because there was no alphabelt attached and/or because the only notable title attached was the editorially administered Ring Magazine belt.

They are all wrong.

One can view the lineage of the World Featherweight crown won that night as descending from Eusebio Pedroza in the mid-1980s. If not there, Boxing Scene’s Jake Donovan reminded in his recent series on lineal titles that
Those with even a basic understanding of what makes a definitive leader could easily identify Naseem Hamed’s body of work in the mid-to-late 1990’s. Only sanctioning body politics stood in the way of Hamed owning all of the featherweight real estate. Wins over Steve Robinson, Tom “Boom Boom” Johnson, Wilfredo Vazquez and Cesar Soto came at a time when all were either titlists or fresh from being stripped for no good reason.

There was also Barrera’s second win over Erik Morales for the Ring title as the magazine managed to catch up their own historical recognition of Pedroza, this coming after Barrera had already mangled Hamed for lineal rights. No matter where the start point is identified, the history all ended up on the same waist and Pacquiao became the first man to officially capture the lineal World Flyweight and Featherweight crowns.

Zooka, did Marco Antonio Barrera won the Featherweight Lineal title? Yes or No.

 

The Olympic committee has allowed Jr to violate OSDT . He has returned to compete without undergoing nine month of random testing which is required of all Athletes. Jr fails his own test.

 

who says it was OSDT? let floyd finish cycling off and USADA would conduct these paid testing when floyd is clean. if floyd really want a real clean sport, why not conduct all year round testing especially if a fighter always takes a long vacation in between fights?

 

This only becomes controversial when fighters compete for titles above 147 and demand 8oz gloves.

 

Zooka, "the man who beat the man" at featherweight: :hi:

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people r not against pac, just his fans

 

They are hypocritical because they are the only camp crying foul about default rule deviation. Everything is negotiable if it doesn't directly break commission rules. So why are they acting like Mayweather asking for blood testing is wrong? Or trying to spin it like Mayweather is not following the rules of boxing? Its one thing that you don't agree to those demands to make the fight happen, but don't act like Mayweather is not following the rules.

Mayweather wants blood testing in a contract in order to get a fight done, which the commission has given him and everyone else the freedom to do. Pac would like 8 ounce gloves written in the contract of anyone who wants to fight him, which the commission has given him the freedom. Yet Mayweather is wrong for having stipulations and Pac isn't. Mayweather is somehow not following the commission rules, but Pac is.

 

It was posted multiple times and touched on already. But the only rule that was amended was the right to have it negotiable if both sides agree. 10ounce gloves are still the default requirement unless both sides agree they would like 8ounce gloves. If one fighters wants 10ounce gloves and the other fighters wants 8ounce glove. 10ounces would be the requirement. But the fighter who wants 8 ounce gloves can walk from the fight since he does not have to sign the contract if the other fighter doesn't want to agree to 8 ounce gloves.

 

Nope,

Some are just so scared that they need to odst a fight they consider inferior.

That is like a grade 5 bully asking a grade 2 bully for odst.

 

There is manipulation. The rules say welters wear 10oz gloves unless both fighters are agreeable to fight in 8oz gloves.

There is'nt any question that any master boxer given the choice would chose to fight Pacquiao at welter wearing 10oz gloves.

You dont think that if Marquez had the choice he would chose both he and Pacquiao wear 10oz gloves?

......and thats just what Bazooka has been saying. Pacquiao has been wearing the 8oz gloves because none of his opponents have a say in the matter.
If any of Pacquiao's opponents just as much as mentions 10oz gloves, Arum would paint a picture of that fighter not being fit to fight Pacquiao.

Guess what happens if Marquez just as much as opens his mouth that he would like that Pacquiao oblige by Nevada rules and both fight with 10oz gloves?

The fight would be called off in an instant, and Pacquiao would move on to someone else.
.......this is what I mean about Pacquiao manipulating gloves size. He's really the only one with a say in the matter as he's not going to fight anyone who'd would like to wear 10oz gloves.