NSAC, Allowing Manny a clear pass to violate their rules?

He didn't care to be tested during training for a big fight, I don't think he would care to much to be tested randomly with no fight scheduled.

 

Um, ok, Champ. :-(

 

mayweather asking for additional test from the default is nothing wrong. there is no foul in that. in fact pac was willing to deviate and compromise to the usual default testing by the commission's to accomodate floyd's request.

the foul that they made the PEDs accusations in the public first before asking for it.

 

so you only think pacquiao needed the 8oz gloves and jmm nor floyd would want the 10oz gloves given the choice. so why did floyd and jmm wear 8oz gloves when they fought each other? ah yes maybe because pac manipulated them to wear 8oz gloves right?

 

because the deman fr osdt was not really meant to cleanup the sport or level the playing field in the first place. these peds accusations were subtly designed to discredit pac as well as provide an excuse not to fight. if the floyds' advocay since day 1 was about cleaning the sport and fair play, then i will buy it.

 

JMM or Floyd can walk away from the Pacquiao fight saying PAC wouldn't follow Nevada rules (won't wear 10 oz gloves). But I haven't heard such.

BTW what happens if the fight in South Africa, or Singapore, or Mexico, or Dubai? What's the size of the gloves?

 

I have stated before that I agree that's the error they made. At the same time Pac's camp is not innocent in all this and have added fuel to the fire with there own actions and reactions.

I can agree with the angle of him being wrongfully accused and all that. But all the other stuff about blood testing not being fair, or unreasonable, that it drains fighters and makes them weaker, they should follow commission rules, etc..etc that stuff is silly to me.

 

If it was DESIGNED to discredit Pac then Pac could have easily just took the test and that would eliminate everything else.

I don't think it was at first intended to clean up the sport though it may have grown to that while he thought about it more and more. But it was intended to have both fighters on a level playing field on fight night and a precaution due to what his father was talking. The precaution turned into a demand due to the reaction of Pac's camp.

 

Is the request for olympic style drug testing justified? Do both parties have a record in taking PED, or to say the least, failed their previous drug tests to warrant more stringent drug test?

If you answer yes to ALL, then you are right in saying that Team Pacquiao are being hypocrites. But if not, then Team Pacquiao have every right to say that is asking for too much.

Also, didn't Team Pacquiao agreed to OSDT as long as there's a cut off-date. So where's the hypocrisy now?

As for the catchweight, Pacquiao was to fight bigger men. It's but only reasonable to ask for a catchweight.

As for the gloves, again, the NSAC allows opposing parties to negotiate the size of the gloves. The lack of an agreement, results in the use of 10 oz gloves. That's the implementing rule, so I see no deviation from it.

Pacquiao, I suppose, and perhaps any fighter for that matter, has no qualms about special demands being thrown in the negotiation table as long as it's reasonable and justified.

 

i understand that most commissions around the world follow the standard 8oz from 147 and down.

 

So those whiners , why don't jmm wear 10 oz and PAC wear 8 oz.

Wearing 10 oz for PAC would put him in disadvantage because he is a puncher likewise wearing 8 oz for jmm or gayweather would be disadvantageous because they are not punchers. Big gloves are good for defense because it covers the guard well.

 

so you agree that it was floyd's camp who actually initiated all of these by publicly accusing pacquiao and then demanding an additonal test afterwards?

yes team pacquiao could have just said yes but you have to factor the effect of these accusations from floyd's camp and their ego being bruised so they would not just bow down to any of floyd's demands especially if there is no proof that pac has actually been on PEDs nor he has failed a drug test before.

 

Glove size can be negotiated w/ NSAC. There is no hard and fast rule on this.


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Its 100% justified for this fight as there isn't many fights of this magnitude to come along. Freddie Roach has a record of training a fighter who took PEDs for a fight, and he is on record knowing about it.

Mayweather actually has no problem with a cut off date. What Mayweather wants is for OSDT to be the ones to install there own cut off date based off the blood samples they take. Just like the Mosley testing, after 3 blood test they found nothing suspicious and installed there own 18 day cut off date. What Manny wants is a pre determined cut off date by contract as well as wants to be notified that day before they come.

 

Yea I agree, I think Mayweather's camp was wrong for accusing Pac of PEDs. But they are not wrong for asking for OSDT testing.

Pac's camp didn't have to say yes, but they just like Mayweather didn't come off genuine enough. If avoiding a Morales repeat was the key then there is no need for a 30 day cut off. They should have stated from the beginning that Pac will test, but not test the day of the fight and would like a 2 day cut off or something to avoid anything like the Morales thing from happening again.