NSAC, Allowing Manny a clear pass to violate their rules?

Puga, I dont have the time to answer every post directly.
The answer you're looking for is written all over this thread.

I dont think glove size is that big an issue with most fighters unless there is a big disparity of punching power.

I dont think either Marquez or Mayweather care one way or the other if they fight Pacquiao with 8oz or 10oz.

......but if given the choice, seeing that Pacquiao is less skilled and relies on punching power, you would think that if it were up to them alone to pick a glove size vs Pacquiao, they'd go with the 10oz gloves.

In any regards, we're talking hypothetical......each Mayweather and Marquez could have put up a stink about glove size, but both are confident in their abilites that they know glove size for them does'nt matter.

 

so given that jmm and mayweather had already fought before using 8oz gloves and you think that pacquiao was the one who was manipulating his opponents to wear 8oz instead of 10oz at 135 and above, who do you think manipulated who when 8oz was used in the jmm-floyd fight?

 

Hey if you wana be strict on the rule and not have Manny Pacquiao fighting in your state filling your stadiums creating great revenue with punters wanting to watch boxing, drink, eat, gamble and see the sights then go for it.

But youd be ****in stupid.

 

I have no idea......

Personally I think the 8oz glove benefits the fighter with the better accurate punching workrate.

If Marquez would have been able to land on Mayweather it likely would have benefited him to use 8oz gloves because he's more of a workrate fighter.

....the bottom line with Marquez-Mayweather is that both are such good boxers.....glove size did'nt really play a role in the outcome of the fight.
.....both are so versatile they can do well with either size gloves.

 

You know, I just thought of something.

Pacquiao vs Margarito was for the juniormiddleweight championship.......were'nt the rules bent here to have the combatants wear 8oz gloves?????

Are'nt juniormiddleweights supposed to wear 10oz gloves???

 

Holy ****!

If Pac feels he has advantage with an 8 oz gloves, then he can wear it.

Likewise, if Gayweather or whoever feels that he has advantage with a 10 oz gloves, then he should wear it.

Why would you force a puncher boxer to wear pillows. Is it not handicapping the other fighter already?

I am sure that if Pac wants to wear 8 oz gloves and JMM or Gayweather wants to wear a 12 oz or 16 oz gloves, I don't think Pac would not obliged.

Infact bare knuckle boxing should be brought back instead of the pitter-patter punches where fights ends up with lots of bicycling like most Gayweather's fights.

 

I am tired of all the lies put out by Void, and his pals..........................

 

Actually, what you posted for reasons why Pac should not take the tests are true and justified.

 

Whose side are you really on?

 

I don't either. The guy is confused.

 

Are you a ******?

Are you really going to argue that 8oz gloves are an advantage for 155 pound Pacquiao over 170 pound Margarito? :nut

 

I'm pointing out that they were crying foul about rule deviation when they themselves are do the same ****.

Does Pac run boxing? Did they go to the commission and ask for the default rules to be changed for WW limit to be at 145 and Jr middleweight to be at 150. Do they follow the default requirements for glove size? If Cotto said no I won't go past 147 and Margarito said I won't go down past 154 would they have gotten the fight? Or would Pac's camp pull power plays and state that they won't allow them to get that pay day unless they give into those demands.

Of course someone will flip flop and say well its all within the rules for Pac. But when Mayweather does it "he doesn't run boxing".

 

Shoulda, coulda, woulda... but he DIDN'T. Fact is, he knows he can beat those fighters that's why he did not request OSDT from them. Commission testing was good enough for those opponents. But when it comes to Pac, he knows that from what he is seeing with Pac right now, he can't beat him. Otherwise why request additional test aside from the one the commission gives?

Regarding your Oscar explanation, it's saying it's normal for current cash cows to impose they're wills on their opponents. Then why the hell are haters whining for Pac taking the upperhand in negotiations? he's the current cash cow.

Going further with your logic, what makes you think Floyd is "in a position" to ask Pac for OSDT? Pac is more of a cash cow than he is. Why should the cash cow give in to the challenger?

 

The point isn't about the advantages. Its about Pac's camp crying about Mayweather must follow the rules of the commission, yet they themselves look to deviate from the rules any chance they see fit.

 

If he demanded OSDT for Hoya it could have killed the fight and ruined his chance at becoming a cash cow himself, but he wasn't thinking of steroids at that time. I also don't even know if Mayweather is the one who came up with the idea for OSDT out of his camp. He has requested it vs Pac as a pre caution due to what his father was talking about.

If Manny has what it takes to beat Mayweather then OSDT isn't going to do anything to stop him from doing so. And claiming it does shows your own insecurity vs Mayweather as he would have to go through the same testing. He is willing to have his own blood taken out of him before facing Pac. You ever think of it that way.

If you followed my posting I have already stated that Pac isn't the first and won't be the last to take the upper hand in negotiation due to his popularity. That is common, what I have been arguing is the fact that they have been hypocritical. And Pac isn't more of a cash cow then Mayweather. Being generous to Pac you can call it even.