NSAC, Allowing Manny a clear pass to violate their rules?

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Right on cue. Example of a whiner complaining about boxing's cash cow taking the upper hand in negotiations.

Demanding catch weights and glove sizes is well within the rules. Mayweather fought at catchweights in the past too. He wore 8oz gloves against JMM.

Tell me this. Has any of the boxing greats (Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Leonard, BHop, RJJ, etc) never asked for a glove size requirement or a catchweight? Do a little research. Pac has only fought in 2 catchweight fights. Do you know that?

 

You are contradicting yourself. You're saying it's normal for a popular fighter to gain the upper hand in the negotiations. But that's what Pac is doing by refusing Floyd's demands. Now you are saying they are hypocritical?

And your last statement just showed your bias.. Pac is less of a cash cow than Floyd? Pac broke Tyson's record for most number of consecutive years with fights going at least a million PPVs. And Pac fights twice a year.

 

The fact that Pacquiao already agreed to OSDT, your claim of them crying foul because someone demanded something that is a deviation from the standard rule is already moot. So where's the hypocrisy there?
But to indulge you...

- Mayweather doesn't run boxing
Isn't this true? So how can you consider that a cry of foul?
- Mayweather has to go to the commission and get the rules changed by the commission.
It's not a bad and unreasonable recommendation. So how can yo consider it bitching?
- We will do what the commission requires us to do
They will follow what the authority tells them to do regarding the matter. What's wrong about that?
- We aren't going to let Mayweather to bully us around.
When is self defense and taking a genuine stand considered a ***** move?

 

Following suit? You mean taking long vacations between fights and announcing to the whole world he lost his urge? Hell, that exactly aren't the actions of a man who genuinely wants to clean the sport.

 

Exactly as I stated in my last sentence of what you quoted.

You guys continue to miss the point or maybe you are doing it on purpose. I don't care that Pac asked for those things at all really. I don't care that Pac took the upper hand in negotiations and got the things he wanted. At the end of the day that takes away from his own accomplishments, but it don't matter to me. He wasn't the first and won't be the last, this is the 3rd time I'm saying this now. I even defended it when Bazooka called him out on it.

The point is that they do the same **** then cry foul when someone else does it.

 

No I'm saying that they are being hypocritical because they are *complaining* about it acting like Mayweather is going against to rules and ****.

 

Mayweather has the highest ever PPV with DLH, and outsold Pac in all common opponents. He averages $300,000 more per fight then Pac has. Pac has more quantity, Mayweather earns more per fight. So like I stated before being generous to Pac you can call it even.

 

So we already knew Bazooka and Divac were both simply haters with no credibility on the subject ... Add this Concrete guy to the mix.

They are trying to twist things around in the most ridiculous way. It's both pathetic and sad.

At 147 and below, 8oz gloves have been used in almost every single championship fight currently and in the past . SRL used catchweights and so did many ATGS... Anyone thinking that the catchweights in the Margarito and Cotto fights made a huge difference are simply ******ed.

The only reason Nevada even has the 10oz glove clause is to better protect themselves in our Sue happy society today.. But you morons have been comparing that to OSDT demands? What does it even matter? PAC has said he'll take the tests. You haters are exposing yourselves big time in this thread.

 

Like I stated before, the best way would be for boxers to take it upon themselves to implement more advance testing into there contracts.

Somebody set the precedent for catch weights right to try and form some type of level playing field of small guys trying to move up in weight. Then others followed suit right? Same ****, Mayweather sets the precedent for more advanced drug testing, someone will eventually follow suit.

We are wasting each others time going back and forth. So lets just agree to disagree.

 

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand. I have stated multiple times that Pac has not broken any rules. That everything he has done has been within the rules of the commission. At the same time Mayweather asking for OSDT is also within the commission rules. So why are they acting like Mayweather is going against the rules?

What I stated about catch-weights and glove size isn't accusing Pac of breaking rules. Its examples pointing out the hypocrisy of what Pac' camp have claimed.

147 is the WW limit imposed by the commission. Pac's camp had no problem deviating from the default rule of 147 to ensure what they felt was a level playing field. See how its contradictory for Roach to claim that Mayweather must follow commission DEFAULT rules on testing, but he himself had no problem deviating from commission DEFAULT rules on WW limit?

That's all I'm saying. By now either we all have an understanding or not, I am done with this topic though.

 

You don't understand that I never once mentioned drug testing or anything about Mayweather .... you're the fool who is talking about unrelated nonsense.

 

Mayweather claims he wants to clean the sport from the PED menace. Lead by example as you stated is the best way to do that. What you forgot to mention is he did that at the expense of insinuating Pacquiao as being a PED user based on unfounded suspicion or at best personal opinion. Now tell me, is that exactly the best way of achieving the objective in cleaning the sport as you wanted it to be?

I don't mind if we agree to disagree as I respect the principle that you are advocating. It's just a shame that the person you are defending isn't exactly doing them.

 

No question that a speedy workrate fighter with good punching power has an advantage wearing the 8oz gloves over a lumbering slow fighter like Margarito.

Have you've ever heard Freddie Roach describe Pacquiao's punches.

Roach was comparing Pacquiao's punches against DLH's punches when he (Roach) has worked the mitts with them.

Roach has described DLH's being more heavier with mass behind them, but in comparing it to Pacquiao's Roach described that Pacquiao's shots pounded the mitts with much more snap to them.
A fighter with speed and snap to his shots benefits from wearing smaller gloves. The smaller the glove, the more snap in the land.

A fighter with alot of mass behind the land is still going to be felt heavy even with the 10oz gloves.
......but the fighter with snap to the land, the 10oz glove diminishes alot of the snap behind the shot, rendering the land much more ineffective.

 

WTF are you debating about?

It is like comparing a bare knuckle and gloves.

The smaller the gloves, the closer it is to being bare knuckles - simple as that.

There is a reason why heavier weights are required to wear bigger gloves!

But it would be nice if they go bare knuckles.

 

I'm still waiting guys, *******s or otherwise.......

......what size gloves do juniormiddleweights wear???