NSAC is not adequate

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  1. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    Simple: Mosley is an admitted PED user, and he never tested positive to NSAC tests.

    I'm not even arguing for any side, it just seems like common sense that the current standard of testing has been proven dated by modern methods.

    So why would the commission's decision be final? Why should Mayweather, or anyone, place themselves under an authority that has proved incompetent?

    I'm serious, I don't understand the argument from Pacquiao's camp on this.
     
  2. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy Jones has also used, no?

    He's never test positive either, or if he has, has never had a fight result over-turned.

    Not sure if the NSAC was involved though.
     
  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    Didn't Floyd insist that the fight be held at Las Vegas? Now their fuggin rules are no good any more. He lives there and fights there. All of a sudden NSAC rules are no good to him any more. Weird.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    if people thinks NSAC is not really adequate, then petition them list your facts and arguments that their current standard is not enough and request them. what about the commissions from other states and countries, are they inadequate also? make this a serious petition for the betterment of boxing and not just to bash on pacquiao.
     
  5. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    LMAO. I guess the next thing you know the weight class will be removed coz of floyd's demand.
     
  6. jjax

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    Posts 3 and 4 avoided the question.

    And it was Pac to refused LA.

    Why should the NSAC govern the medical tests for this fight if they have been proven inadequate?

    Why is Mayweather, or anyone, out of line to ask for more modern and effective testing?
     
  7. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    ?la
     
  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    It is the technology that is dated, not the NSAC.

    As technology catches up with cheaters, then it is harder for cheaters to cheat.

    And if the boxing is going to happen in Nevada, then who should oversee the fight???? See the idiocy of your comment??? I presume that you would suggest USADA. It is also known for a fact that Marion Jones was never proven by blood test to have taken PEDS under the USADA. She had one urine test positive but the second one, which is needed to confirm was negative. Does that mean USADA is incompetent as well?

    There can never be a professional boxing fight in Nevada without the auspice of the NSAC. Otherwise, have the fight done in Texas.

    To make your analogy make more glaringly stupid;

    You enrolled in Michigan Institute of Technology, however, because you do not want how MIT runs their final exams, you ask Cornell to do the test for you.
     
  9. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    I didn't take a side. Don't put words in my mouth.

    And your example was terrible.
     
  10. pejevan

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    He is not out of line. He just did it wrongly.

    The proper protocol is to ask NSAC to modify their testing protocol instead of the blind and naroow-minded insistence that USADA alone should do the test. Now, if they think that NSAC laboratory procedures are not up to par with the most accurate laboratory techniques, then simply petition NSAC to use a certain laboratory to run the test.

    The way it is looking is that they have an insider in the USADA to either sabotage or tamper with specimens. USADA is not exactly without controversies!!!!
     
  11. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    If the professional boxing is in Nevada, the final authority is always the NSAC. I do not know where you get the idea that there is any other way.

    The example is an stretch, but for purpose of magnification of how glaringly inconsistent and absurb the notion of USADA doing the test, it serves its purpose.

    For one, USADA does not have any authority whatsoever in Professional boxing. Had this been an amateur one, then USADA is the proper authority. For USADA to administer doping testing in a professional boxing, the state commission must formally acknowledge that, or grant them authority to do so. However, in this case, Schaefer and Ellerbe did not even ask NSAC for USADA to do the test. It is like being enrolled in MIT, yet taking the Cornell exams.
     
  12. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    You've just proved Arum's point, this is Schaefer's chance to change all of that and they're not.

    "Now that I've learned more about this, boxing now will have an outspoken advocate for blood testing in the sport," Schaefer said. "I plan to ask Nevada to have Travis Tygart explain why blood tests are necessary. This is not about hitting a baseball, throwing a football or hitting a puck. This is a sport that's mano-a-mano, with guys hitting each other's heads. It's important that the strongest testing possible is in place."

    GL: As of now have any petitions been filed?

    KK: "No."
     
  13. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    First off, Mayweather wanted Vegas. Since the possibility of the fight happening in Texas is high, Floyd insisted on fighting in Vegas. Pacquiao said sure make it vegas. That's where he fights anyway.

    LOL Now you are a chemist? It's just amazing a lot of floyd fans are becoming more of a chemist. Now I bet a lot of people will be posting like they know the Law.
     
  14. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    Why the hell are you guys insulting me? I haven't even fukn said anything. Geez, lighten up.
     
  15. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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