NSAC is not adequate

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  1. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    thx for the link, good vid
     
  2. jasedikio

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    This the the wrong time to change the rules of drug testing.Now we all get cheated out of the biggest fight in years.
     
  3. pejevan

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    If you want to make boxing commissions better, it has to come within, not outside of the commssion.

    Meanign, the commssion themselves adopt changes, not asking USADA to do the blood test independent of NSAC.
     
  4. jjax

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    Fair enough.

    The NSAC may be the final authority, but this does not stop the fighters from negotiating outside of it, ie catch weights, glove sizes.

    I don't know anything about the USADA and won't comment.

    That is a valid point - why not petition the NSAC? Arum wanted to let them decide, Mayweather camp didn't agree. Perhaps they have it in their mind that the NSAC will side for Arum without a doubt. Or maybe the process of petitioning, ruling, and implementing is too lengthy for a March 13 fight. I doubt it would be a swift process to make a major adjustment to NSAC rules, especially a rule that would probably effect regulation of the sport as a whole, and not just the single fight. To make the March 13 deadline, Pac's camp would have to agree immediately, or the NSAC would have to change immediately. Neither of those will happen.

    Well... ****. :lol:
     
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    That's the thing if this is for the benefit of the sport they should still petition for it. It won't benefit just one fight, but all the fights that take place in Nevada.
     
  7. pejevan

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    The commssion will just have to decide and it is not hard. There are 5 commissioners, and all that nis needed is a majority vote. It does not even have to be a change encompassing future fights but one-off change. But the problem I am seeing is that commissioners have big egos too. What the GBP have done is actually disrespecting the NSAC by trying to bypass their authority, and I won't look favorably today that they would vote for mayweather.

    With regards to boxing gloves size, ring size, catchweight, it is still the NSAC that has to approve. Afterall
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    , that is why they look at these matters.The WBC is just a sanctioning body, meaning that you are fighting for their title.

    Take note that when the contract of the Mayweather-JMM was changed, it was the NSAC that was informed, because it will be the NSAC who would sanction fighters for breach of contracts. The only thing that The WBC, or WBA or alphabet organization can do is to agree whether the belt is still on the line if one violates contracts.

    So anthing major changes to occur has to have NSAC stamp of approval, like method of doping testing.

    Now if the commssion says the fight has more rigorous testing, then evrybody has to comply - no ifs or buts. Pac may petition NSAC to review ruling, but because nsac IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY (there is a need of one in any sport - like the referee in basketball calls otherwise it becomes chaotic), then they could simply accede ordeny.
     
  8. lobk

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    Boxing in all is a joke. We can't even have one champ in each weight division. There are to many sanctioning body, fighters from every corner of the globe, and not enough money is earned by 90% of the boxers.

    The testing is way way on the bottom of the list of things wrong with boxing. The first thing that needs to happen is one governing body for boxing. Until you have that this will always remain a mess.
     
  9. thesmokingm

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    Christ, facepalm. Every athlete from Balco beat the tests. Marion Jones and all the track athlete beat USADA and WADA. But no let's focus on Mosley and his triumphant reign over NSAC's testing. Nevermind the fact that NSAC follows WADA guidelines.
     
  10. pejevan

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    It looks like the Mayweathers don't recognize the authority of the NSAC yet have the fight at Nevada.

    BTW, how hard it is to convene 5 persons to make a ruling? It is not like Philippine politics wherein you need 500 congressman, 24 senators to change a name of a street.

    Unfortunately,
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    , which could lead us to one possible conclusion ----- this is just a media propaganda to drum up the fight. ESPN,. CNN, and even here in Australia, where boxing article is as scarce as a sign of life in lunar surface, have articles regarding the bruhahah of the doping controversy.

    Schaefer, Ellerbe are not idiots not to know how to ask for changes in how test can be done.Instead of the countless press releases, they could have simply asked NSAC to modify their protocol and ask an independent body like the French anti-doping agency to run those blood test.

    The only loser here actually is Pac because no matter what happens after the fight, their will always be cloud above his head despite not being tested positive. If this is just a propaganda, then they made Pac a sacrificial lamb, just like what they did to JMM.

    And to think that Pac was criticized for not going with GBP in the signing fiasco?
     
  11. grimlocked

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    Pac's decision against USADA testing was the best decision he made in terms of risk/reward ratio. If he is the same with Arum in the suspicion that USADA has been compromised due to the relationship between GBP and USADA personnel, it would be right for him to reject USADA. It's a no-brainer between the following choices:

    1. Allow USADA testing with the potential of a planted FALSE positive, ruining his legacy
    2. Reject USADA - it will put his legacy in question to some people but it won't ruin it completely

    For all we know, Pac might be eager to publicly question USADA's fairness but it would look bad for a non-American to do that.
     
  12. pejevan

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    It may look like a conspiracy theory but since the time that Pac rejected GBP in favor of Top Rank, the disinformation and maligning of the GBP against Pac is unprecedented.

    Even the mere mentioning of doing some doping test outside the NSAC protocol already damaged Pac's reputation even if he will be tested negative with subsequent tests using the USADA.

    When you plant clouds of doubt on certain people, that cloud never disappears, especially considering that the
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    , menaing even if you test negative, it does not mean you did not use doping drugs, it simply means no drugs was detected using this days standard tests.

    Rightfully so, Pac should sue. Anybody in his position would definitely sue especially if what you achieved is through hard work and dedication. Only those Floydettes and idiots question the act of suing and equate as well to being guilty.
     
  13. Farmboxer

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    The testing rules have been good enough for Void all these years.
     
  14. philthyphil

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    LA as in Staples? Or are you talking about Louisiana?

    Either way it's a moot point. 9.25% in Cali and 6% in Louisiana. You tell me where the fighters would want to fight when you're talking about a $30+ million split each way.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Testing right after the fight is fine.
     
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