NSAC: Urine test only for Manny-Floyd fight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by emallini, Jun 13, 2010.


  1. muzkabeatz

    muzkabeatz Lurker Full Member

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    Floyd is just using random blood testing so he can have mosley , pac or himself to have an hematoma so they can stop the fight.

    If floyd wants the olympic style testing then go fight someone in the olympics ****ing black *****.
     
  2. muzkabeatz

    muzkabeatz Lurker Full Member

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    The only fighter that is chemically induced is that black mother****er.

    ****ing ghetto homeless fans believing anything a co-crackhead will say.

    Typical ghetto stupidity at it's finest.
     
  3. Reppin501

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  4. pasky2000

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  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No problem man, I enjoy the debate/discussion. To be perfectly honest, blood testing hasn't proven to be the end all be all in terms of catching cheats either, but at a minimum it has caught some, in contrast to urine testing which is years away from being approved, if the most recent attempt were to materialize (as it relates to HGH). I was shocked to see what HGH actually done in terms of effects on the body, from recovery, to building muscles mass, even affecting your mood in a positive way. I think I'm going to get on HGH...lol.
     
  7. Reppin501

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    Right the Urine test isn't in use, which was the point, HGH can't (as of yet) be detected through Urine tests. Blood testing is the only known way to catch someone using HGH, while it isn't full proof obviously, it is the only known accpeted way to test for HGH in athletes. An english Rugby player was caught as referenced in one of the articles through blood testing, which itself is still being refined and improved upon as we speak. So yes there is a test in use now, it's a blood test, you are referring to the urine tests which aren't in use.
     
  8. Reppin501

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    Seriously why does he have to be a "black mother****er" and "ghetto" is all that necessary? Beyond that, I'm a college educated man, I own a rather nice home which I assure you isn't in the ghetto and I suspect Manny of Blood Doping and/or using HGH. That being said, I don't claim it to be fact, and I'm open minded to other information but as of now I would lean toward him doping in some shape form or fashion, but that's my opinion.
     
  9. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    My concern about the incessant quoting with the World Anti Doping agency is that they have an agenda. They want their company to be the defacto te$$ting agency by every major sport. The more recognized sport accept their standards, the more funding they get. This is why they can be a bit ambiguous at times about which test can catch.
     
  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simply put - even the testing regime imposed by FMJ would have failed to flag Mosley as a user, back in his BALCO days.

    If you are unaware that a certain substance even exists then when and how do you develop a test to detect that substance?
     
  11. thesmokingm

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    Who the hell are you and how did you arrive at your witty post quoting what I wrote above?

    If you bothered to read up on the story of that player, the science behind the blood test falls short on crossing. There are so many holes in that positive finding that it is more of a joke, a maltese falcon than truth.
     
  12. igor_otsky

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    Olympic-style drug tests on amateur athletes are done the whole year round, not just weeks or days before an olympic event that floyd wants to be used on pro boxers. NSAC has to randomly test ALL pro boxers not only when a fight comes to agreement but their whole fukkin career (or until one has to retire, and retire again)
     
  13. Zacker

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    It isn't as clear cut as this. Lesser tests are very often prefered over better ones, you weight pros and cons against each other all the time. For example a steroid profile is done in urine. This is sort of a quick test and if you find something you perform a better test to prove that you indeed found something. In the famous case of Floyd Landis they did more than half a dozen of these profiles during tour du France and found one suspect profile. This was confirmed as a positive with the isotope ratio test. However, when they did the isotope test on the negative samples, they found 3 more positives that the steroid profile had missed. We have to live with this unfortunately.

    Anyway, blood tests would be better for most everything as far as I can see. They are however switched out against urine test as soon as they become available. Incidently, when real anti doping experts (does not equal Voy) say that urine is the gold standard or is to be prefered over blood, this is what they mean. Blood is incovenient.

    HGH is likely not the reason why USADA are adamant about blood testing, I sincerely doubt they test for it very often. The reason is EPO for which WADA labs do a multi factor screening test in blood and employ a confirmation test in urine if they find a suspect blood sample.
     
  14. Ilesey

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    Just ****ing sign to fight already.