Number one p4p combination puncher of the millennium so far?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Exactly my thoughts, great at the one highly specialized combination - meaning effectively great at throwing his left cross. His right jab wasn't terrific; it didn't need to be.

    And yeah Terry is definitely a guy who at his best aces eye tests, but it's hard to convert nonbelievers due to a) his memorable KO losses (in fairness they were against big punchers; he's less of a glass cannon IMO than a Roger Mayweather) and b) his résumé being maybe not weak per se but certainly riddled with asterisks.
     
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  2. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ofc the PBC plug plugs in a PBC guy.
     
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    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG was a pretty good combo puncher for a period

    Pre-Judah Floyd was pretty good (and very offensive at that time and prior)

    Loma had some good combo work

    Beterbiev puts them together well

    MAB had some great combination patterns as did JMM

    You know, Khan had some lightning combinations for a period too
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

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    All in the very good range at least; I'd say PBF, MAB and Loma transcend into great combination punchers for their era in their primes.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

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    Ooh yeah, they called him Too Sharp for a reason. :deal:
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Lots of good examples posted thus far. Probably Povetkin as far as HW is concerned. Some of the combos he's landed would be impressive even if he was at a lower weight class.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Good shout! He built a lot of fine work off his lead right, mostly. Once he got a head of steam going he was deadly with his sustained barrages.

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  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    The last time Crappy took on a combination punching Aries, in Fernando Diaz. The beatdown he received was so vicious, they've removed all traces of the match from existence, at least from YouTube, Dailymotion and ok.ru anyway. The only place you can find it is on DAZN. He's not going to fair very well against the best combination punching Aries on the planet in Kazuto Ioka.:sisi1


    Just to show you I'm not blowing smoke and claiming robbery in a close fight, it wasn't close, the verdict was unanimous on the RBR, all 5 who watched it through Diaz won.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

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    Oh, just had a stroke of inspiration...this'll be fun.

    Let's have folks' #1 active combination puncher in each division. :deal:
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    Bear in mind I watch about 5% as much boxing as during my first ~16 years on here, so there may be some blind spots (in addition to just ADHD brain farts and completely blanking on someone), but here's my rough draft.

    Bear in mind also - the best combination puncher doesn't have to be the best overall fighter in a division, and could even conceivably be outside a top 15.

    1. Heavyweight - obviously Usyk. With all due respect, any differing opinion is stupid and wrong. :sisi1
    2. Cruiserweight - jeez, this is hard. GRS throws a high volume but they're hardly crisp showroom-floor combos. Opetaia is more a trap-setter with power pot shot snipes. Riakporhe and Okolie are clinching monstrosities. CBS is more a one and done counter-puncher (at least versus Masternak, haven't honestly seen too much of him...or probably have but didn't leave a strong enough impression to embed in any braincells :sisi1). Ngabu is a fairly color by numbers peekaboo hooky-hooky swatter. Really slim pickings here. I'm gonna say Badou Jack, actually. :nusenuse:
    3. Light Heavyweight - much stiffer competition than in the class above. Four way tie between Beterbiev, Gzodvyk, Bivol and Smith tbh. I can't split 'em, take your pick.
    4. Super Middleweight - another final four I'm too lazy to parse out any further: Derevyanchenko, Benavidez, Plant and Canelo.
    5. Middleweight - Alimkhanuly. By some distance; aside from him middle is nearly as weak in this category as cruiser.
    6. Super Welterweight - Madrimov or Butaev.
    7. Welterweight - Bud. Honorable mention to Spence and Santillán.
    8. Super Lightweight - Subriel Ahmed Matías. :deal:
    9. Lightweight - Loma, even now.
    10. Super Featherweight - Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov. Sort of a Terry Norris type, in the sense that his offense is gorgeous but it's just a shame about his defense/chin being liabilities at times.
    11. Featherweight - Wood innit.
    12. Super Bantamweight - Inoue, class apart, no runners-up circle, get real. :sisi1
    13. Bantamweight - Higa.
    14. Super Flyweight - Ioka.
    15. Flyweight - Félix Alvarado.
    16. Light Flyweight - Teraji.
    17. Minimumweight - Shigeoka (either bro honestly :lol:)

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    • Fourth place - Mexico 2
    • Fifth place - Kazakhstan 1, Uzbekistan 1, Puerto Rico 1, United Kingdom 1, Nicaragua 1, Sweden 1
     
  13. IntentionalButt

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    Don't be shy folks, step up and have a whack. :roto2cafe:
     
  14. Terror

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    Manny. Because he used combinations to win as main part of his strategy at the highest level. He wasn't a traditional combination puncher in the sense that every shot was crisp, but in the midst of those lightning barrages he would wrench down and throw some big punches, and his quick shots stung a lot, too. He was consistently overwhelming many many fighters with combination punches especially as he fought slower competition. He has signature highlights with both hands as he staggered Morales and Hatton with his right badly in addition to his bombing left, and basically turned Margarito and Clottey into punching bags with his volume and speed. Cotto couldn't see the uppercut that ultimately took him out of the fight competitively in round 4 because he was getting stung from every angle at the same time when they would mix it up.

    I really like the Amir Khan shout, blazing speed. I felt like W. Klitschko was a hellacious combination puncher before he got clipped by Sanders. Wladimir's performance against Mercer might be one of the sickest displays of HW combinations I've seen. Andy Ruiz can really put them together, too. He is my current HW pick.
     
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  15. Dannymita

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    JMM all day ... still..and nobody is even close....that's no slight on anyone else, he might be the best combination puncher of all time.

    Romans only other I can think of..st least this millennium...seen some beautiful combos from canelo and benevidez but nothing to put them in Marquez league , I remember JFE used to be pretty good but I've not seen any of his fights for a while