Numbers Are In On Anthony Joshua, Wilder Is More Popular

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  1. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    I've heard Wilder can attract crowds of up to 3 or 4 hundred in the US.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That video is unwatchable.

    Is it just about the numbers in America?
     
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  3. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i wondered what happened to 1lehudson since he stopped posting on esb when roy jones started losing

    this video reminds me of 1000 of his posts / just substitute wilders name for jones and i have heard this mantra for years.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Yup. I made it like 5 minutes in and the dude kinda mentined that its just about the US ratings.
    But then he went on a rant about Wilder not needing AJ and how Wilder is already the bigger global star, including the UK.

    The dude literally had no idea wtf he was talking about, nitpicked "facts" and had some nonsensical fanboy agenda.
     
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  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is it none of you intellectual know anything outside of your opinions?

    I have posts where youse kiss my ass because the post is not provocative but rather education in nature. Where are yours?

    So I'm meant to believe you're more than two bad thoughts from ******ed because you feel you're good with words? Excellent at spin?

    I fail to see most of your points, and if you want to embarrass me and make me feel stupid you're going about it all wrong. The educator never feels stupid when the student has a hissy fit over opinions. All I feel is pity for you. You are pathetic, you have an emotional response and rather than directly addressing that issue you attack intellectualism.

    Well, son, if you're so god damn smart, if you know so much about boxing, why did I sign up after you and teach this forum lessons? You got tens of thousands more posts than me and ain't none of them ever had any value outside of bickering like children.


    I already showed you stupid mother ****er once you do not want to play the real life game with me. Unless you are a very rare sort I will embarrass you purely through juxtaposition. I'm telling you now, get off your ****ing high horse. You ain't smart, you ain't educated, you ain't **** but another fan repeating the same A-B mentality you have been spoon-fed while circlejerking any mother ****er that choose one of two ****ing opinions. If you were I wouldn't be here.

    Unless you actually have intellectually driven posts show some ****ing respect to your fellow man. Bloodboxing is a much more educated individual than most of you ****s and pansy ass insecurity is starting to **** me off.

    The **** do you have? What makes you so smart? You're nothing so don't attack anyone else for being nothing because all you're doing is highlighting the fact that most of cocksuckers can spend decades talking about boxing and never once bother to learn a ****ing thing or teach a ****ing thing.


    Sucka dick.
     
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  6. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is the LDBC lol
     
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  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    What are you on about?

    No one in boxing scores high ratings on SHO(or HBO) at 5pm on a Saturday.
    And the U.S. market is not their main focus. Its the UK. Its where they sell PPVs, tickets and do the bulk of the advertisement.
    There was no promotional entity in the U.S. advertising Joshua-Parker with the exception of SHO sports.
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hard to say for sure. Hamed was a draw in the US but he had that loud, brash personality that connects with Americans more. Hatton too was a decent draw, getting 1.8 mill viewers for his big US debut against Collazo and signing a lucrative HBO deal. But he had a potential rivalry with Mayweather to help draw interest.

    Big problem Joshua has is there is a big lack of US talent to continually fight against. I suspect he'll struggle to become a star in the US because of this.
     
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  9. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok, ok, ok, it's obvious to anyone that Joshua is the much bigger star! However, staying on that little island and fighting euro champs is the definition of being a big fish in a small pond. Unless he can crossover (just like Lennox did) and capture an American audience/media......then he's enjoying a small slice of what's truly available.

    Fighting Jarrell Miller in MSG or Barclay's and doing a full on US media tour would go a long ways towards building up this Wilder fight in London.

    Because as it stands right now the most lucrative audience in the world doesn't really give a damn.
     
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  10. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eh, i dont think so good mate. Even 3rd world foreigners can become stars in the US by just absolutely sparking people out on a regular basis!

    Show an American audience a 6'6" Adonis of Heavyweight champ who crushes people and they'll consistently tune in.
     
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  11. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please tell me not all American boxing fans are like that... + that comment section is the peak form of stupidity
     
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  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    This is a misconception...Americans are not nationalistic in this regard. Never...not one time have I made a determination about whether I like an athlete or not based on if he's American. Now if you are talking about America vs Mexico, America vs England, etc in a team sport...sure, people will default to pulling for America. In terms of individual sports, it's not that way. I think at their peak of popularity the case could be made that Manny was more popular than Floyd, and Floyd was an Olympian, born and bred American. Exposure matters...I don't deny that, but in terms of supporting or rejecting a fighter being American is not a factor for most Americans.
     
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  13. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    what would joshua earn for a usa fight v miller ?

    the estimate was that joshua will earn 25 million usa dollars for the parker fight in the uk

    given that joshua is getting abysmal tv numbers on showtime and i agree 350k viewers for a unification heavyweight fight is as poor a showing as i would imagine possible/ then how is he going to earn 30 to 40 million a fight in the usa market







    what do you tghink
     
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  14. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    God the comments under this vid make me want to start cutting myself
     
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  15. madballster

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    Unlike Lennox there are not potential big money fights for AJ in the USA. Lennox had Tyson and Holyfield as big PPV fights in the US. Wilder is not PPV material, he has NEVER had a single PPV fight in his own home market. AJ has had half a dozen.

    Wilder is unknown in the US. And the rest of American HW fighters aren't even in the top 10. AJ's big money fights - outside of Wilder - are Povetkin/Whyte or a rematch with Parker. All non-Americans.
     
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