Nutrition for boxing

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  1. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    I was just looking for some info on number of calories contained in a gram of protein, carb, fats, etc and came across this ... thought I'd post it here for others info or feedback.

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    Protein provides 3.2 calories per gram, not 4 calories per gram


    Posted by Larry Hobbs
    Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:34 am Email this article


    How long have you heard that protein and carbohydrates provide 4 calories per gram of food, and fat provides 9 calories per gram? Probably forever. But these numbers are bogus according to a recent paper by Dr. Geoffrey Livesey.

    Proper calculation
    Calculate calores after subtracting the calories required for metabolism and storage

    The calorie content of food should represent the amount of calories left for your body to use after subtracting the calories required for metabolism and storage.

    It is called Net Metabolisable Energy.


    Protein
    Protein : 3.2 calories per gram

    After subtracting the calories required for metabolism and storage, protein contains 3.2 calories per gram, not 4 calories as we have always been told.


    Fat
    Fat : 8.7 calories per gram

    After subtracting the calories required for metabolism and storage, fat contains 8.7 calories per gram, not 9 calories as we have always been told.


    Carbohydrates
    Carbohydrates : 3.8 calories per gram

    After subtracting the calories required for metabolism and storage, carbohydrates contains 3.8 calories per gram, which is what we have always been told.


    Alcohol
    Alcohol : 6.3 calories per gram

    After subtracting the calories required for metabolism and storage, alcohol contains 6.3 calories per gram, not 7 calories as we have always been told.


    Fiber
    Fermentable fiber : 1.9 calories per gram

    After subtracting the calories required for metabolism and storage, fermentable fiber contains 1.9 calories per gram, not 0 calories as we have always been told.

    List of fermentable fibers

    A list of some soluble (fermentable) fibers include:

    Psyllium
    guar gum
    cellulose
    oat bran
    barley
    inulin
    xanthan gum
    fructooligosaccharides (FOS)
    resistant starch
    sugar alcohols

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  2. watpoae

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    What are peoples opinions on daily multi-vitamin tablets?

    I got this months fighting fit mag and in their nutrition guide it states that it's recommended to take them.

    I used to take them, but I'd say I eat pretty healthy (get more than my five a day by having a banana, kiwi, apple, alpen high fruit cereal plus veg with meals) so I stopped as I felt I was getting enough of them in my diet.

    Can it do more harm than good to take them or not? The reason I stopped taking them was that I read that if you have a pretty good diet you'll be over doing it.

    If if it advisable to still take them, is the one with added iron the best option?

    Thanks.
     
  3. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Sounds like your diet should provide what you need but it can't hurt to take them, they are "supplements" so consider them as such, they supplement your normal vitamin intake.

    Take a decent multi-vitamin, 1000mg cod liver oil and B-Complex tablet and that should cover it.
     
  4. Fredd

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    That would be over doing it. Yes, a decent multi vitamin and mineral, but not the cod liver oil, it has added vitamin A, and you would be getting vitamin A in too high of concentrations, and it would stop the absorption of vitamin D, take other fish oil capsules though, they do nothing but good.
     
  5. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Hmmm, interesting. Never knew that one ... thanks for the info. :good

    What other fish oil would you recommend?
     
  6. Fredd

    Fredd Member Full Member

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    Any fish oil without the added vitamin A to be honest.
     
  7. gcyoosf

    gcyoosf New Member Full Member

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    I was wondering if you anyone here used whey protein to make a shake, if so, what kinds of additions do you add? Do you use water or milk? Does it taste good? What kind of Whey do you use?
     
  8. counterpuncher

    counterpuncher New Member Full Member

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    So true.
     
  9. Speechless

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    Well, if anyone cares to comment, I have always felt perhaps that I consume an unusually large amount of food - so much that it's getting a little embarrassing around my co-workers when I "chain-eat" so i'm open to any comments.

    Here's my food log for today (typical of most days)

    Breakfast:
    - 2/3 cup juice (homemade fruit/veggie from juice extractor)
    - bowl of high fiber, whole wheat or granola cereal w/skim milk
    - coffee
    - english muffin w/egg white & deli sliced turkey

    Snack:
    - granola bar
    - 2/3 cup fat free cottage cheese w/fruit

    lunch:
    - 6 oz lean meat (chicken breast or pork tenderloin) with brown rice & veggies
    - apple

    snack:
    - protein cookie (homemade with whey isolate, peanuts/cottage chs/choc chips)
    - banana
    - yogourt
    - 1/3 cup almonds

    Pre-workout
    - energy bar

    Post Workout
    - protein shake
    - banana / fruits

    Dinner
    - 6 oz lean meat (chicken breast or pork tenderloin) with brown rice & veggies
    - bowl of cereal
    - 1/2 cup fruits

    This sounds like a recipe for obesity, but I'm 5"8, 139 lbs and I train a lot so i manage to have a lean / athletic build - even though I work a 9-5 desk job during the day.
    Yet I still manage to be hungry between meals/snacks.

    Does this sound unusual for anyone, or do any of you eat this much?
    I know it may sound like i'm bragging - truth is, I spend a crazy amount of time just preparing food (cuz I don't like fast food or processed junk) and it eats up a lot of my time and money. I actually try to eat less (skip 1 snack or 2 during the day) but it's hard to deal with the hunger.
    Any suggestions or comments are welcomed.
     
  10. Fredd

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    Do you like eating that amount? I don't see why you would be embarrassed by it, especially as you said you are hungry. I guess, if you want to consume less go for more calorically dense foods.
     
  11. counterpuncher

    counterpuncher New Member Full Member

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    :patsch
    I thought I was the only one who ate like that.
    I eat that amount of food too.
    I train a lot as well, twice a day for 5 days a week, and 2 non-consecutive rest days.
    I'm 5'8'', 160lbs at my heaviest.
    The only difference is that I eat 4 times a day because if I split it up like you do, I'm always hungry.

    Train.
    Breakfast.
    Lunch 4 hours or so later.
    Afternoon/pre-workout meal.
    Train.
    Dinner.

    I eat less on rest days.
    3 meals and a snack.
     
  12. counterpuncher

    counterpuncher New Member Full Member

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    As far as my idiot co-workers are concerned, there are no words that exist that can accurately describe how little I care about what they think of my eating habits.
    I'm kind of happy that they're confused as to why I can eat so much and still be trim while they eat little and stay fat.
     
  13. ToxicAngel

    ToxicAngel New Member Full Member

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    the silk line is good i like their almond and coconut milk. both have different amounts of vitamins to fit ur needs. there is a new fruit product in their line i have not tried yet.

    the primary advantage thejokerswild is soy milk is less fat & cholesterol and easier to digest. if your lactose intolerant than soy milk is better substitute than cow's milk
     
  14. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope you aren't implying that they fat because they don't eat as frequently as you?
     
  15. Speechless

    Speechless Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you! someone who understands.
    People see how much I eat and say "I gotta get on your diet plan", or "what's your secret?". I just laugh it off, cuz I don't wanna sound like a dick when I say "it's called training my ass off 5 days a week" even though that's what I actually mean.