Hi, guys! I read the nutrition thread and the other threads on this very good sub-forum and I would like to add my thanks to those who have contributed. I am hoping that you'll be able to help! I am hoping for advice that will help me reduce my BF% from 14% to 12% by changing the order and combination I eat in, rather than total calories consumed/expended. Could someone please recommend some scientific articles or explain in depth the effect on insulin secretion following the ingestion of different food-groups? We all know that if you eat carbohydrates and fat at the same time, a lot of the fat, if not all of it, will not be broken down to provide energy, especially late in the evening, when you are less active. We also know that if you eat protein and carbs at the same time, you get a huge energy boost - just the ticket required for muscle recovery post work-out. Also, that if you eat a lot of simple sugars with complex carbohydrates, a lot of those carbs will turn to fat rather than be broken down. And that it makes sense to eat simple sugars (e.g. fruit) first thing in the morning etc. etc. But does someone know EXACTLY what the best order and combination to eat something in is to help me reach my goal? Is it OK to eat nuts (fats) together with dried fruit (sugar) a few hours after carbs or should I replace these fats with tuna instead, for example? What I currently eat/do: 07:30 Fruit + porridge 10:30 HIIT on a spinning bike or sprints (6 intervals, total with warmup/cooldown = 30 mins 10:30 hand-ful of nuts and dried fruit/honey 12:30 soup 13:30 3x10 bicep curls (or some other exercise) 14:30 pasta & souce 15:30 3x10 shoulder lifts (or some other exercise) 17:30 hand-ful of nuts and dried fruit 18:30 3x10 press-ups (or some other exercise) 19:30 salad with olive oil 22:30 sleep Yeah, it's lent, so I am not eating animal products (eggs, cheese, meat, fish) for the next 3 1/2 weeks. Thanks guys!:good
Here's three articles that show where I've gone wrong. http://www.drkaslow.com/html/food_combining.html http://drbass.com/sequential.html http://www.puristat.com/foodcombiningchart_2.aspx But there are plenty of other articles that say food combining/sequential eating has little effect on energy - I can't believe this is right, though, from personal experience.
bloody hell your only gettin around 15 to 20 grams of protein per day with that diet, your body fat will never drop because your muscle mass is going to be constantly decreasing because of your protein intake what made you come up with that diet and training routinbe may i ask edit: after second thoughts this must be one of those troll threads, i was reading a thread a sherdog a while back where guys were talking about how **** the training forum is on eastsideboxing and a few of them admitted to coming here and trolling, starting shitty threads with the most basic bull**** and i reckon this is one of those whats that diet about 600 calories
Hi! No, it's a serious thread and as I said, I am fasting. I estimate it's about 1600 calories altogether. Obviously, it's not the kind of diet I would have if I was not fasting. But I am getting more than 20 grams of protein/day... oats, pasta, nuts all contain at least 10% protein and I am eating loads! ...the weight is coming off, even on this diet. The question is whether it can come off quicker by combining foods differently/changing the sequence. Still waiting for some useful replies.:good
Combining foods is more often a good thing rather than bad. It usually helps to absorb different nutrients more efficiently. Food is just energy, giving and taking. You have some misconceptions there that you believe are fact.... you don't need any scientific journals for this sort of stuff, just pick up a decent book on nutrition by someone with some qualifications. Don't quite understand your workout routine either, just doing one exercise every few hours.... Some advice.. don't do the same thing everyday or eat the same thing everyday, adjust your food to your activity levels. Why don't you want to reduce your calorie intake? You could not exercise and be on a calorie deficit for a little while and you could probably drop 2% body fat easily. No need to be fancy or over think things here, losing weight is as simple as calories in vs calories out.
Thanks, mate! Good advice!:good I am doing one exercise every few hours because after the HIIT, I don't want to get too tired and burn out the nervous system - I want to do this 6 days a week and still have mental energy to do my job.
explain to me how 1 serving of soup 1 serving of pasta and sauce 2 handfuls of nuts and dried fruit salad and oil porridge and fruit is 1600 calories
I eat loads! 150g oats = 550 kcal 150g pasta = 450 kcal 80 g nuts = 300 kcal 1 banana = 80 kcal 1 apple = 50 kcal 25 ml oil = 120 kcal (in pasta souce and salad) pasta sauce (contains mushrooms, etc.) = 75 kcal salad (contains avocado, etc) = 75 kcal roughly...
Why not do HIIT one day and resistance training the next? You'll get a better training adaptation from both that way. Doing some bicep curls and push ups isn't going to tax your nervous system at all anyway, no problem doing exercises like that one after the other. Maybe learn how to do some squats and deadliest with good technique if you want to get some better effects from your training. I'd think that it would be incredibly tedious to do one exercise every few hours, that would be more mentally fatiguing than doing a decent resistance session in one hit I reckon. You're not as fragile as you think you are, as a beginner you can train in almost anyway and get a lot of benefits. No need for you to fine-tune and get all sports sciencey at this stage mate.
Thanks for that! Sounds like good advice! For me, it's just easier to stop what I'm doing and do a bit of lifting for 10 minutes, rather than take 2 hours off to go to the gym.
Thanks to lefty for his input. If anyone else has anything to contribute to the topic, please do.:good
thats like 4 bowls of porridge i hope you have a bucket for that 150 grams of pasta to eat out of i can fit about 25 grams of nuts into my hand so you must have pretty big hands anyway your diet and training is all over the shop mate, its not unhealthy but could be so much better
:good If you ever feel moved to offer me some constructive advice, don't let anyone talk you out of it! How's this (including protein), as an example diet: 0700 - fruit 0800 - porridge 1030 - green/mixed salad 1200 - tuna 1400 - brocolli/vegetables 1500 - pasta 1800 - salad & chicken breast 2000 - nuts With HIIT every day and a bit of lifting three times a day as described earlier? I want to get leaner. I don't want big muscles. I want to be athletic and sharp, not very strong and big.:good
If you manage to HIIT everyday you are doing it wrong. You shouldnt be/ are not able to go full intensity 7 days a week
I do it 4-5 times a week. So tired that I cannot lift more than a little bit, as described. What usually happens is that I usually do the HIIT every other day, but sometimes I manage two days in a row. On my off-days, I always do a bit of lifting, but I still feel dead-tired.:!: I want to keep doing both the HIIT and the lifting/ muscle-strengthening. Any advice?:good