Objectively reviewing Lesnars fights in the UFC

Thats absurd.

 

Its not that Couture was past his prime, its just the fact hes wildly overrated. Hes a fighter who if he fought nothing but elite fighters would probably be 50-50, if not worse. That makes you a good fighter but not an excellent one.

 

Yea yea yea, everybody is overrated, everybody sucks, we get it; you're controversial and contrarian, everybody thinks your cool.

In Lyotos weightclass he has beaten I'd say 2 top of the food chain guys at the time of the fight in Thiago and Rashad; I don't think Tito and Sok are quite at that level.

Franklin is a tough one, not real sure where to count it. He has proven to be a world class fighter, but it was before he really came into his own, he wasn't at the top of his division at the time of the fight so maybe you could count that as 3. Or maybe you sort of add Tito, Sok, and Franklin together and count them as 1 top of the line win.

Lesnar beat Couture, who was the HW champ coming off dominations of champion Sylvia and #1 contender Gonzaga and looking the best he had since his wins over Vitor and Chuck. Call him overrated all you want, he was the rightfull champion and looked great in his past two fights.

Mir was the interim champion and also looking great.

Do your usual song and dance about how everybody and everything is overrated, but name 5 better HW's than Couture when he fought Couture, and the same for Mir; you can't.

So basically neither Lyoto or Lesnar is a dominating champion yet, and Lesnar has 2 top of the line wins; Lyoto has 2 or maybe 3, depending on Franklin.

So how is absurd to say that a guy with two wins over champions, in championship fights has about the same number of absolute top of the food chain wins as a guy with one championship win, and one or two very high level fights?

I'm not digging at Machida at all, just saying that while he has more fights and is more proven overall; at the championship level he is the same level as Brock, possibly even lower since he has yet to defend.

 

Tim Sylvia had an extensive career before he ever got to the UFC, where he had beaten some good names.

Then he beat journeyman Cabbage, Won the belt against Ricco, beat journeyman Gan McGee and failed a drug test, got his arm broken against Mir, beat journeyman Wes Sims and got knocked down and ankle locked against Arlovski.

How is that "identical" to having 1 fight outside the UFC, losing to Mir, beating journeyman Herring, beating one champion in Couture, and beating another champion in Mir?

What evidence is there, at all, that Lesnar will turn out like Sylvia? Other than the fact that you seem to dislike him?

 

therez a difference being the best heavyweight in the ufc and being an unstoppalbe juggernaut beast freak of nature who can beat godzilla wearz 4x glovez and deadliftz a house

letz be realistic ??

what are u some kind of complete moron

 

I'm not talking about first 5 UFC fights. That's a very skewed way of looking at it. Tim had 13 MMA bouts before joining the UFC.

 

I am objectively reviewing what he has Lesnar has done and at the moment his UFC career is like similar to Sylvia's when he started. Lesnar is doing all he can and beating his opponents but I find it hard to rate at the moment.

 

when Sylvia was champ a few years back there was nobody in the HW division at the time besides Arlovski. Monson had earned a title shot because there simply wasn't anybody else .

 

brock is not by any means unique and is just a very good athlete ?

there are bigger and better athletes than him ?

stephen neal waz the best superheavy weight wrestler in the states around the time he defeated brock if i remember correctly. that waz quite a while back if i remember correctly. then a year or so later neal loses to kerry mcCoy and mcCoy becomez the statez top wrestler and then doesnt do well at the olypics another year or so after that and because of that you feel that brock is only good because if brock waz great mcCoy would have won a GOLD MEDAL ?

brockz not as skilled as kerr but because kerr has mental problemz and is bigger then kerr those are the ONLY reasonz why brock is succeeding ???

brock is nowhere near as good as mark coleman when it comes to wrestling because coleman made the olympic team (albiet as alternate i think) and therefore is superiour to brock when it comez to wrestling ability other than the fact that coleman is smaller so therefore again brock is ONLY better than coleman because of his size advantage over him regardless to the fact that you state there are bigger and better atheletez around then brock ?

are those all your POINTz ?

wow great pointz you stupid ass

itz apparent that a certain carwin nutlicker has a little UNCONTROLED negativety at how many people are making a GREAT BIG FUSS over brockz UNIQUE size and atheltism

personally i love watchin carwin fight as the guy is a unique beast of a fighter with TONz of power and pretty good techique

i feel that even if carwin is possibly as strong and powerful as brock or even MORE powerful then brock, i still dont feel that carwin is athletically as explosive and quick as brock lesner which i feel would be the UNIQUE problem that carwin would have to deal with inside the octogon

letz hope for your sake carwin can deal with brocks UNIQUE speed, athletism, size and power when and if they meet or i would hate to be inside your mind if brockz speed and explosivness made mincemeat of carwin on fight nite

trust me if carwin can deal with brock i will survive so letz just for your sake hope that carwin layz brock the **** out or your going to look like a really stupid upset disgruntled jack ass with everything you said here today

letz not forget that although you have already stated in this thread that carwin will destroy brock you conviently FORGOT to actually make the STATEMENT that you feel carwin is ONE of these bigger and better athletez that you say exist.

is he or not ?

or would you rather wait until after carwin destroyz brock before your willing to make this statement ?

i hope you didnt forget to make this statement about carwin because there waz a little FEAR within you that brock maybe too athletic when compared to carwin

that would be a real shame for you to have to deal with all the way up until fight night

ya poor fella

 

Nope. Monson earned a title shot because he was winning. Admittedly the heavy division back then was farcical.

 

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nice picture you included in your reply i bet you really liked that scene when sammy handlez those little guyz while he is holding a big gun and talking like a big dude

great freakin acting by samual i must say, love him as a actor and seems to be a decent human being to boot

however, i found the whole scene PATHETIC because only a fairy would say such things while he waz the one holding the big gun

as far as my english,

if you cant read it mother****er then i guess i dont speak it **** for brainz

now go speak english to your other friendz that know how to read and speak english so you dont get all confused and frustrated that i dont follow your rulez of literature that you hold so dear you freakin fairy

 

it waz up your arse when i went to find it so i hit "z" instead

zhit for brainz

 

I like Samuel L Jackson. But I thought Pulp Fiction was a little overrated. It was a good movie but it wasnt as good as its made out to be. It was a great quote though.