Objectively speaking, does Pacman stand a chance?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by m8te, Nov 13, 2011.


  1. diavolievo

    diavolievo Member Full Member

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    Mayweather is a great talent that would be favorite against anyone at 147 to 154. Saying that he won't have any trouble against any top welter is overrating him. 30% chance is about on the spot for me for PAC against PBF.

    I am a fan of both these fighters and have always given PBF the edge 70%-30%, I still think though that Mayweather had doubts before, I see that there's a better chance of PAC-MAY after yesterday's fight - now that is good for boxing!
     
  2. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    a counter puncher was able to give manny serious trouble and arguably beat him, some even going as far as to say he was robbed. floyd, being much better than marquez, can employ more or less the same style to give manny even more trouble and very possibly, comprehensively beat him. that's what im saying
     
  3. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone can be beaten.

    But. Floyd ain't anyone and with that lackluster performance from Pac i think he's gonna outboxed by flood big time
    There's a chance Floyd will make him look silly, but on the other hand Pac would be really motivated and might turn in a big performance like JMM did last night
    I think it'll be a good fight if it gets made in the next year and a half or so
    It's a shame Floyd is not more active though, boxing has evolved into too much business and all.

    Btw now Floyd probably won't get much credit for winning over Manny right? He's supposed to beat him now
     
  4. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac has a puncher's chance. We saw Mayweather buckle to an old man Mosley. If Pac was given that opportunity it would be a different outcome. However, I do not think that opportunity will present itself. Mayweather is well aware of Pac's power.

    I hope Pac does land some punches on Mayweather. As we saw with Hatton, Mosley and Ortiz; Mayweather fighting under pressure is sweet science. He can lay wood if he gets tagged. If he's not forced, he will pot shot all night.
     
  5. diavolievo

    diavolievo Member Full Member

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    If everything would be based on analogies or theories why make fights at all? It was almost unanimous before that PAC would be too much for JMM and now we all know what happened.
     
  6. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    He does have a punchers chance, but Mayweather has a good chin. Old or not Shane packs a great punch he Ko'ed Margarita pizza faced.

    Pac needs one hell of a lucky punch or he needs to wear mayweather down, accumulative punches.
    Can't see it though, but i hope Pacman comes back like his old self ie. the Cotto fight, thought he looked a little off last nigh not himself
     
  7. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    I said I dont see manny having many options against mayweather, and as a reuslt he cant beat mayweather. when did I say he wouldnt have any trouble? come on. you're blowing what I said out of proportion. I never said floyd would have no trouble against pacquiao man.
     
  8. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    I never thought it would be a whitewash for pacquiao, nor did I ever state that this fight, or any fight for that matter, should be based on an analogy or theory. that's ******ed.
     
  9. amazingbulldog

    amazingbulldog Member Full Member

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    UD..

    i guarantee Pac and Floyd will be a boring fight.
     
  10. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    But i think he would have, had Pac shown up better conditioned.

    You can always say hypothetical speaking that Brian Mcbride would have a chance against Prime Tyson, but wait a minute then Tyson gets into trouble gets older and you have a different fight, he ended up beating Tyson. There's intangibles and everythings possible isn't what the thread is about.

    I agree though Pac has about 20-30% chance, but not if he shows up like last night. I think he will be better if the fight gets made, maybe he'll be close to prime and we'll have a better fight.
    But right now he wouldn't stand much of a chance against Floyd
     
  11. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So walking pac down in the formula to beat him now ? :nut
     
  12. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    I cant believe only a few people fully understand my totally straightforward point. thanks for not incorporating analogies and theories into the equation, and thanks for acknowledging that bring them into the argument is utterly irrelevant.
     
  13. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    No problem, just telling i can't see Pacman winning based on what i saw against Marquez.
    TBH he looked a little unmotivated, i think he might not want the fight with
    Floyd unless he knows for sure he can get back to prime or near prime