Objectively, the two reasons why Pac must rank higher than Floyd in ATG terms...

I'm not saying that Mayweather is not an ATG, he is.

I'm not saying that Mayweather is not a fighter of incredible skills and ability, he is.


But I do believe that, as things stand, Manny Pacquiao must rank higher than Floyd Mayweather in terms of pound-for-pound all-time career greatness, objectively-speaking,

ie: the two reasons that Pacquiao would be regarded by boxing journalists and historians as the greater fighter in the future if both guys retired tomorrow are...

and I do feel that these reasons are pretty irrefutable.



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This thread isn't about hating or anything of the sort. I believe Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather as things stand, and also believe that boxing history will recognize this as well, unless Floyd does something dramatic to turn the tables such as taking on and defeating either Pacman or Martinez.

Thought I should make my reasons for this opinion clear. :good

 

I agree. And the only way to settle it is for them to fight eachother. Until then Pacman>mayweather and that's just the way it is

 

Are you joking? :huh

Pacquiao fought Marquez at his prime weight.

Floyd fought him 14lbs above that, 2 weights higher than Marquez had ever been before.

Pretty simple, to be honest.

 

I don't view them as particularly central to this argument, same as I don't view Ali's 5 losses as central to the debate over who was greater between him and the undefeated Rocky Marciano, or Jones's 8 losses as central to the debate over who was greater between him and the undefeated Joe Calzaghe.

Pac's first loss came when he was a skinny, raw as hell, green teenager. His 2nd came when he was so weight-drained he jumped THREE divisions for his very next fight.

I scored the 1st Marquez fight to Pac by 115-112, so I view it as not as close as Floyd vs Castillo 1, which I scored to JLC by 115-113.

:good

 

3 everyone loves Pacquiao and no one likes floyd.

4. Manny has a platinum song and no one in the hood buys filfy records music

 

Nice way to cut off the rest of my post.



Let me ask you, who do you consider the greater fighter between:


- Muhammad Ali (5 losses) and Rocky Marciano (0 losses)

- Roy Jones Jr (8 losses) and Joe Calzaghe (0 losses)

- Sugar Ray Leonard (3 losses) and Ricardo Lopez (0 losses)


:think:think:think

 

Nope.

Nonsense.

There are quite a few people who thought Castillo beat Floyd.