Observations on Joe Calzaghe's career.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by trampie, Feb 5, 2009.


  1. stonerose

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    Sorry mate but the main fact about the fight, and the one which will go on the record books is that Calzaghe won that fight. And for me, and lots of others he won it fair and square.
    How you can say you scored it wide for Hopkins is beyond me. It was very very close and could have gone either way. Anyone scoring it wide for either fighter i don't get.
     
  2. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    it would have been better we fight bhop again and KO him...
     
  3. stonerose

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    **** off D. I am no ****ing fanboy and i believe you know it. ****.
     
  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    can't understand people having a go at joe.putting eubank on his arse is an achievment in itself!who did he dodge?slapper?- he didn't half slap lacey about.best british fighter ever
     
  5. DINAMITA

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    On the night of the Hopkins fight they did have basically no effect. Simple.
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    I don't agree that Hopkins won by a wide margin, I had him winning by a single point, but other than that this is an excellent post. If only people could remove their Union Jack sunspecs, they might see this.
     
  7. stonerose

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    Hopkins was a very tough fight because Hopkins is an extremely tricky customer so yes his punching in that fight was pretty ineffective.
    However your claim that " his punches are amateur and ineffective " suggests this was the case in every fight, which is absolute horse****.
     
  8. DINAMITA

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    A slapping technique is amateurish, it is not how professional boxers punch. Watch any other boxer you can find footage of and you will see this.

    A guy with only 2 clean KO's in 46 fights and who failed to stop the suspect chin of Roy Jones despite landing hundreds of clean shots is an ineffective puncher in my opinion. Not an ineffective boxer (actually a very effective one), but an ineffective puncher.

    Horse****? Nope.
     
  9. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    To be fair not all of his punching aresnal involve slaps....and out of the hundreds of punches he threw against Roy Jones I'm not sure how many were intended to be knockout blows? Not many.....
     
  10. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you believe some guy attempted to compare Kessler with John Ruiz and Virgil Hill? He said if John Ruiz and Virgil Hill were or could be HOF'ers then Kessler is. Who has Kessler beat and what has he done? Kessler is still a young guy and has a lot more to prove, but my god man. Pavlik has better victories than Kessler and Pavlik isn't a HOF'er at this point.
     
  11. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is no conceivable reason why he could not KO Jones besides being ineffective as a puncher. Jones Chin in his prime was not bad, it was actually fine, as he took shots at heavy, hard shots from a natural heavy with pretty decent power in Ruiz who KD Kirk Johnson, Rocked Rahman, Knockdown Holyfield.. etc.

    But this version of a washed up Jones punch resistance is suspect.
     
  12. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Kessler is a better boxer than Kelly Pavlik and is a two time title holder after being a one time multi-belt holder.

    When Calzaghe fought Kessler it was to unify an entire division. When Taylor fought Pavlik it was meant to be another routine defence and Steward predicted an easy win....which it should have been.
     
  13. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Calzaghe's 36 year old biscuit hands were never gonna stop anybody though.....

    From 27-34ish he could punch hard enough to earn many accumulation stoppages but other than maybe the 7th round I didn't even see him try to KO Jones
     
  14. DINAMITA

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    The excuses are becoming more desperate and bizarre...
     
  15. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    That's not an excuse....did he go looking for the knockout?? I honestly don't think he did mate.....

    P.S. I dont intend to excuse or justify his cuffing style for one minute

    One thing I would say is Joe Calzaghe dropped Eubank but Carl Thompson, a Cruiserweight who knocked down David Haye who now fights at HW couldn't......

    That's not an attempt at A+B=C but it shows Calzaghe without being a SMW Tyson certainly had the capabilities to dig