ODLH as a southpaw

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  1. wutang

    wutang Active Member Full Member

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    i'm not sure if it has been discussed on here before, i know de la hoya was a converted southpaw who fought orthodox, but did you ever wonder what his career would have been like if he had fought as a southpaw? i know he would be losing that stiff left jab and powerful left hook, which were his best weapons, but i wonder what type of straight left he would have possesed, had he fought southpaw. can anyone remember if he ever turned southpaw in any of his fights?
     
  2. blacktopbully

    blacktopbully Boxing Addict banned

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    considering his right wasn't such a bad thing i've watched him light up several people right right hands
    this could be an awesome thing
     
  3. epl

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    I don't believe I've ever seen Oscar turn southpaw, even for a second. I sure could've missed it, still, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a common practice for him.

    I know, as a southpaw myself, I'm severely handicapped fighting orthodox. I no longer have my right jab, which of course stymies the hell out of most folks right off the bat! Plus I no longer have my right hook to sneak in when it's least expected. And without that big straight left, well.......

    It is nice to have that powerful left jab and hook when a lefty's fighting orthodox, but the right is usually awkward at best. Just my $.02.
     
  4. wutang

    wutang Active Member Full Member

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    so you're a right handed fighter who fights southpaw i'm assuimg? i know there were a lot of fighters who fought with their dominant hand in front. Moorer, Winky Wright, Cotto, to name a few, and i'm not 100% sure but i saw a clip of judah bowling and throwing a football with his right hand.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    It would have made him a greater boxer. Oscar was tall for many of the weight classes he competed in and preferred to fight outside. A tall southpaw is a ***** for most people to deal with, and outside is the optimal range for southpaws.

    He clearly wasn't lacking in the left hand and still would have had a great one as a southpaw. A southpaw's main weapon is the left hand. The key difference is how much better his weaker hand, the right, would have been. Converts compromise themselves since their weak hands are in the rear, and it now have to travel a greater distance. He would have been smoother with his stronger left foot in the back.

    I haven't seen many elite Mexican southpaws. Contrast it with the Cubans who embrace southpaws.
     
  6. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Vicente Saldivar is the GOAT in this category.
     
  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I've seen DLH turn southpaw multiple times. I'm not sure how much better he would have been; it's more about comfort, and I don't know if he was necessarily forced to fight orthodox. He certainly didn't seem to have any problems with his movement and coordination, and when his right hand developed in his prime, he was complete as an orthodox fighter with the bonus of a monster lead.
     
  8. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    de la hoya actually had great success when he turned southpaw against whitaker
     
  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    He basically had no choice but to fight southpaw. One of his trainers as a child didn't know how to train lefties.
     
  10. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You mean orthodox? That's interesting. I wonder if he had issues, but then again, tapes early on show he was an absolute beast.
     
  11. wutang

    wutang Active Member Full Member

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    i know all we can do is speculate over the issue, but do you feel de la hoya would have been as successful had he fought as a southpaw? i feel like he would be a completely different fighter stylistically.
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Exactly, stylistically a whole 'nother personality in the ring. Couldn't begin to imagine.
     
  13. Mr. Sandman

    Mr. Sandman 27-2 (21 KO) Full Member

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    Victor Ortrees is right handed.
     
  14. milkman11

    milkman11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good thread. I wondered the same thing a while back. I think he would be more dangerous.
     
  15. epl

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    No, I'm a southpaw, as far as throwing baseballs, batting baseball, boxing, etc. However, I write with my right hand, I'm not much good with precise stuff with my left. I know, I'm a strange duck. But I can bang with my left! Or at least I could at one time, I'm 50 years old now. (leans on walker, puts in teeth) :oops: