ODLH: Manny Pacquiao Is The Greatest Fighter We've Seen, EVER.

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    His record proves it.
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    He did, and then Spence had an eye injury.
     
  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    :deal:
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I can only imagine how many threads @JOKER and others would have started had Pac beaten Ugas. The whole first page would be 50 threads claiming he's the best ever and walks on water. Great fighter but no where near the best too many bad losses and close fights with people he should have owned and his signature win isn't good enough to be the GOAT or even a top 10 ATG.
     
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  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Pac da GOAT.

    Notice how many boxing people are saying it, not my opinion. This is an existing narrative that is gaining traction and will continue to gain traction.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who gives a ****? The guy isn;t even better than SRL let alone the GOAT. What does that make PBF since he schooled the GOAT and GOAT wasn't even the best fighter of the era??
     
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  7. JOKER

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    No one saying Floyd da GOAT, doe.

    :deal:
     
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  8. Pimp C

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    No one with common sense is saying Pac is either. He doesn't have the skill or wins to be the GOAT.
     
  9. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Inaccurate statement.

    Let's look at his welterweight losses:

    Bradley – robbery
    Marquez – juiced to the gills
    Mayweather – illegal IV fluids
    Horn – robbery

    These are not my opinions. These are fight controversies that exist. The only person who's beaten Pac with very little controversy is Ugas and Pac's empty shell was still very competitive. Even then I believe the change of opponent on 11 days notice played a role in Pac overtraining.
     
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  10. Pimp C

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    Bradley close loss
    JMM KTFO no failed test
    PBF schooled in legacy fight no failed test
    Horn went life and death with a cherry pick gone wrong and lost and he still has those problems that he needs to avenge.
    Ugas took the fight on short notice was a big under dog took Pac to slick school and won easily.

    I'll add his other losses since you don't want to talk about those
    Singsurat KTFO
    Torrecampo KTFO by a bum
    Morales Faded and went to war with Pac beating him at his own game and clowned him by turning southpaw in the last round.
    Sanchez was getting in Pac's ass and would have won that fight had it not been stopped.

    Does this look like a GOAT to anyone with common sense when they're better boxers with better resumes and less bad loses?
     
  11. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Bradley = robbery
    Marquez = hired a PED, blew up in size, increased his power dramatically, showed up to the Alvarado fight w/ huge red boils
    Mayweather = illegal IV fluids
    Horn = robbery

    Again, try as hard as you may to deny their existence, but these are the controversies surrounding each of his 147 losses. And they're significant details.

    Who cares about Singsurat and Torrecampo? Morales wasn't faded. He went on to almost beat Danny and Maidana. Pac is 4-1 in common opponents against Floyd.

    Floyd cheated the scales against JMM.

    Pac obliterated Hatton, Oscar, and Cotto. Pac had Mosley literally running for survival.

    Pac would have murked Maidana who took Floyd to the brink and was even forced to wear gloves he didn't like.
     
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  12. Pimp C

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    Bradley gave Pac that L
    Pac had severe back Acne when he fought PBF don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
    PBF beat Pac so easily that he didn't even have to get out of 1st gear PBF is a stylistic nightmare for Pac and beats any version of him.
    Horn beat Pac up in a fight that should have never been close in the first place.

    The controversies are excuses pac didn't deliver period.

    Who cares about Singsurat and Torrecamapo??? I do and people who asses fighter's greatness the correct way. Those KO losses were bad and Pac must be help accountable for them
    Morales was faded in that 1st fight he wasn't prime he beat Pac at his own game and clowned him as well. A so called GOAT beats a faded fighter who was coming off a loss to MAB no excuses. Erik Morales was on roids when he fought Danny and Maidana and was busted for them that helped him. With that said there was nothing close about Garcia-Morales.
     
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  13. 6.5winmag

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    floyd best ever hugger,runner boring has been.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    But still great enough to take Pac to slick school.:deal: What does that say about Pac?
     
  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He has a case for top 10, but he is not the GOAT

    As far as the best ever (which is different)? He isn't close