ODLH vs. DeJesus and Buchanan at 135

DeJesus TKO14 while close (but clearly for DeJesus) on the cards

 

Buchanan outboxes him.

De Jesus possible late stoppage in a great scrap.

 

I take both over Oscar in good fights.

 

Saoul Mamby, a light puncher and 33 yrs old at the time, KO'ed DeJesus. Mamby could do it, but Oscar couldn't? I'm sure people will say that's because DeJesus was washed up at that point, but I don't know, I think some of these 70's era guys are being overrated. I think they were good fighters, but if I had to pick who was the best of the three, Buchanan, DeJesus, or DLH, I would say Oscar, but that's me. I don't think he was without flaws, he was stiff, he was beatable, but I think he competes and beats some of these people we are talking about....

 

Buchanan beats Oscar at 135 imo.

Ken had terrific stamina, better skills than Oscar, and was smarter than Oscar.

 

"Washed up" is a nice way of saying "he was doing speedballs every day" at that point in his life.

 

I would have to strongly disagree. The 70's produced some pretty amazing 15 rd fighters and ATGreats who really knew there craft and learnt on the job

 

DLH is one of the very few champions, who throughout his career only met opponents with a winning record. He was involved in 29 world title fights, against some of the best fighters of his generation - 9 of which either are, or shortly will be, in the IBHOF.

If anyone learned on the job, it was Oscar!

 

Duran would have had an easier time with DLH than he did v DeJesus.

 

Ok great ...he still loses

 

All the number 29 does is to point out a guy that fought in the land of 4 world titles.

 

They both beat Oscar.

Oscar probably finishing evolving and peaked as a welterweight where he still had stamina issues and not the greatest boxing IQ. Imagine that vs. the stamina and class of Buchanan? Oscar would be ahead after 8 or 9 but wouldn’t quite do enough.

 

Regardless, whether he was or wasn't, I still would not pick him to beat DLH... He couldn't get in on Cervantes, but people are picking him over DLH....?? I guess everyone will say they rank Cervantes over DLH too... Look, they were good fighters, they were champions, it takes something to be a champion, but, we have some champs that are obviously better than others... I'm an old-school type of guy myself and prefer a lot of the old over the new when it comes to many things, but if I see an improvement, or someone or something that's better than what we had in the past, I have to be fair about that too and say it how I see it....

 

Oscar loses to both, by majority decision. Good enough to make it about equal, but not good enough to win.